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on: October 19, 2011, 04:39:54 AM
I was wondering if anyone has experience with making stencils for oil painting. Something that is reusable but not too thick. I'm not sure if contact paper plastic is strong enough and reusable.
I'm wondering if acetate might be best. I'd like it in large sheets though. Something like the Tulip painting of 20 x 16 " canvas size sheets.  I'd like to be able to cut out a shape and keep both the positive and negative and stick them back on another canvas. (Perhaps by using repositionable spray glue)
What are the micron thickness grades?
Cheers  ;)

*addition*: I've just ordered this pack of acetates to use with my OHP (Over Head Projector) I got today from eBay:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/overhead-projector-transparency-210x297mm-compatible/dp/B0045U8HGK/ref=lh_ni_t

I've also just read, via a Google search, of a tip for these sheets. Just place one over a photograph and plot the shape of a picture with indelible ink pens then, use on your projector! Hey, that's a great one to save printer ink if I just want a basic outline dimension guide! In fact, I'd just stick the acetate sheet on the computer screen and trace round that. No ink is needed! This gets better by the minute  :yippee:
« Last Edit: October 19, 2011, 05:14:21 AM by Topdoginuk »
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Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 08:12:34 AM
I've also ordered these A2 size acetate sheets from eBay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170713219979?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_650wt_1185

So, I can use my overhead projector and beam images like the Rose or Tulip onto the large acetate and draw the outlines. Then, I'll cut the shapes out, spray the back with repositionable glue and use 'em time and again. Well, that's the idea anyway.  :P
The A2 size is big enough to cut into 2 so, I can use 'em on 16 x 20 canvases with just an inch short.
I'll update later to let 'ya know how it all turns out.   :sweat:
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Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 11:20:30 AM
great idea Tony, sound like you are going to have a ton of fun with your projector  ;D


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Reply #3 on: October 19, 2011, 12:04:49 PM
Hey Nolan, I'm full of crazy ideas! I've gotta give it go just to see how it turns out.  :)
I'm glad that Projector is nice and compact. Not too heavy either. (I'm wondering if some people may think the use of a Projector is a bit cheating? Well, I'm a bit lazy and, I feel it's the end production that matters, not really how 'ya make it. Like watching a movie. Tron Legacy for example. If I knew how they created it by watching the 'Bonus Material' on the DVD, it'd be like unweaving the rainbow. (As tempting as it is, I just won't do it! The film would never be the same again  :o
Gosh! I waffle on these days lol!
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Reply #4 on: October 19, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
It would save a ton of work if I could get my outline like that. You can give anybody an outline.....but can they turn it into a work of art? Not as easily as one might think. I don't think I'd call it cheating, more of an aid.
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Reply #5 on: October 19, 2011, 12:33:12 PM
That's the word I was looking for Val!  :thankyou:
A Projector is merely a tiny 'Aid' in the long process of creating a Masterpiece!  :smart:
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Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 01:26:49 AM
 O0
Cheers, Val

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Reply #7 on: October 25, 2011, 05:40:15 AM
Today I bought a tin of 'Repositional Adhesive' from The Range for £10.99. I sprayed my acetate that I'd cut to size 16 x 20". I tried to fix it to the canvas but it refused. I sprayed some more and it still didn't stick. I've nearly used half a can before it sticks lightly. Oh, and it stinks! Perhaps the acetate is too thick, I don't know.
I'm now wondering if I should have got some of this 'Contact Paper' used by Nolan. I just wasn't sure if it was thick enough to reuse. Anyway, can someone tell me what they think of the 'Contact Paper' and a link where I can buy it in the UK please?
Cheers. ;)
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Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 06:07:28 AM
*addition*:
I've looked on Amazon and come across this 'Helix Clearseal 45cm x 1000cm':
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0027VSHFK/ref=s9_simh_se_p229_d0_g229_i4?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=auto-no-results-center-1&pf_rd_r=0NYS2E8186MQY4CJG2NY&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=240112507&pf_rd_i=Con-Tact%2024F-C9D78-06%2018-Inch%20by%2024-Foot%20Roll%20of%20Multipurpose%20Adhesive%20Liner%2C%20Clear%20Gloss
it says 'easily repositioned' but not if you can repeatedly do so. I guessing that because it's thinner than this acetate I'm trying to use, it'll stick better even if I add a spray from my can of adhesive.
Is this the contact item you folks use?
Cheers  ;)
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Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 06:19:01 AM
Just a thought here but you and I are going to need a 'glue' that'll stick to oil. That's the problem. Not much will stick to oil.
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Reply #10 on: October 25, 2011, 06:23:07 AM
Just a thought here but you and I are going to need a 'glue' that'll stick to oil. That's the problem. Not much will stick to oil.
I'm just wanting it to stick to the primer on a new canvas. So I can draw the outline of a projected image to give me the correct accurate scale rather than having to do the grid system. I want to be able to reuse the acetate or, contact paper if it's possible.
Ought to make life easier!  ;)
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Reply #11 on: October 25, 2011, 06:30:19 AM
OK, what am I missing here? You have a projector, right? Can't you project an image from say, a magazine to the canvas, with it?
You should be able too or you have the wrong type of projector.
I don't understand this acetate thing.  :confused:
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Reply #12 on: October 25, 2011, 06:41:19 AM
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Reply #13 on: October 25, 2011, 08:55:01 AM
I want to post these links to possibly help.

http://www.artograph.com/products/projector_choose.htm

http://www.madisonartshop.com/prspbo.html

I hope it does.

Thanks for these links! What I'm trying to achieve is, a cut out of the outline of projects so I don't have to do them again with the Projector. Like stencils that I can reuse and stick on other canvases to recreate the same artwork.
Thanks for trying to help out though, I appreciate it.  :thankyou:
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Reply #14 on: October 25, 2011, 10:57:37 AM
Are you planning to 'mass produce' the same paintings??? That's an interesting concept to make a half dozen or so of the same painting.
I've always understood that a painting is a 'one of a kind' endeavor. It's what makes the price go up.
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