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Cheryl Andrews

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on: June 20, 2016, 09:48:01 AM
Hi All,

Been a long time since I posted, but I had some real troubles with this one and thought maybe some of you could give me some advice.

This is my first pastel portrait, I am really happy with how the details of the bead work and textures of the buckskin turn out, but i got lost on the portrait.

Something is just not right about it, and I can't seem to put my finger on it. I did lose my initial sketch along the way, so had to wing it a bit to finish.

Anyway any advice on where I went wrong and what tips you may have for pastel portraits would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.





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Cheryl


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BeaSue

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Reply #1 on: June 20, 2016, 12:52:16 PM
Cheryl, I think this is stunning!  Maybe let us know what, in particular, bothers you? I do not have much experience in pastels or portraits, so others may be able to help, but I think it looks amazing, just as it is.
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lynn p.

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Reply #2 on: June 20, 2016, 12:56:25 PM
I agree with Susan. Well done and complex. Maybe you could post your reference photo.


Cheryl Andrews

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Reply #3 on: June 20, 2016, 01:29:54 PM
Thanks Lynn and BeaSue, you are very kind. I think there is something about the facial features that seems off to me, just not sure what.

Below is a link to the reference photo i used off of PMP, as you can see I got lost and was not able to replicate the features of the actual photo.....thinking maybe i needed to start with a more detailed sketch?

https://pmp-art.com/pauline/gallery/11913/fort-langley-powow-2012-woman
« Last Edit: June 20, 2016, 01:31:35 PM by Cheryl Andrews »
Cheers,
Cheryl


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BeaSue

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Reply #4 on: June 20, 2016, 01:37:54 PM
Cheryl, she looks like a different woman from the one in the photo. Not worse...just different. And that's fine, isn't it? My personal feeling about painting is that it shouldn't aim to be a replica of a ref photo. But perhaps I am misunderstanding your concern.
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Reply #5 on: June 20, 2016, 01:49:21 PM
Cheryl,

Great job on the clothing and feathers.  Incredibly well done on the detail.  Beautiful colors.

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Cheryl Andrews

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Reply #6 on: June 20, 2016, 01:53:19 PM
Thanks for looking BeaSue. I have to admit I was hoping for a more accurate depiction of the subject...but had to give up part way through, as i couldn't pull it off.


Anyway I love the way the clothing turn out, just not the face. Something feels off, but maybe I have just stared at it to long.  :D
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Reply #7 on: June 20, 2016, 02:09:07 PM
 Beautiful job! You did a great job on the clothing. :clap::clap::clap:
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Reply #8 on: June 20, 2016, 03:11:04 PM
Excellent, Cheryl :clap: :clap: :clap: The big problem is the subject's left eye. You have it looking towards you instead her front. Study that eye carefully in the photo and see the difference. Fix that up and then repost your changes O0
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Reply #9 on: June 22, 2016, 07:22:35 PM
Hi Cheryl, thanks for posting the reference.  What i see is that the whites of the eyes are in shadow and you wouldn't see the white closest to the nose at this angle.  I would knock the white down quite a bit and study the actual eye shape. The way it is now, it doesn't sit back in the socket next to the nose.  Think of the eyeball as a basketball and shade the inner corner of it (if that makes any sense at all :heeha: ) This is hard because the eyes are hidden by the glasses. I think some of the white you see is actually a reflection on the top rim of the glasses. I might add a slight shadow under the end of the nose .
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Cheryl Andrews

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Reply #10 on: June 23, 2016, 06:28:31 AM
 :thankyou: Dennis and Lynn. I really appreciate the feedback!

I can definitely see what you both are saying about the eyes, especially the one in shadow. I will see if I can make the corrections, although not sure the paper is going to take any more pastel.....
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Cheryl


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Reply #11 on: June 28, 2016, 02:17:08 AM
Cheryl -  Stunning piece of work!    :clap: :clap: :clap:


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Reply #12 on: June 28, 2016, 08:54:36 AM
Cheryl, I thought that I had commented on your fantastic pastel portrait. My apologies, must be old age :crazy2: . However, your painting is wonderfully done.   


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Reply #13 on: June 28, 2016, 09:49:34 AM
Cheryl this is a super painting of the Buckskin dancer,  nice nuance in the hair.  love all the feather work.  congrat
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Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 06:23:49 PM
Cheryl, a very good and interesting painting. Please post your touch ups.  It's a great picture, and it tells a wonderful story.
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