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BeaSue

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on: December 21, 2015, 01:09:04 PM
I was filling one of the wells in my palette with more paint, and I noticed that it has a strong musty smell. I have had this tube (Lukas Permanent Red) for about 3 years. The paint color seems fine, but the smell is really off. This will sound odd, but it smells like an old person's bad breath.  :-X  Has this happened to anyone else? Should I throw it away?
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Reply #1 on: December 21, 2015, 01:22:06 PM
I had student-grade water based liquid paints which smelled (bacterial growth) but it did not affect the quality of the paint.  I have learned to add a few drops of Dettol (a topical antiseptic) to deal with the problem.  It was usually the problem with old green and blue colours.

But before you add chemicals to your good WC paints... please check with Dennis or Nolan.
Cheers, Annie
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BeaSue

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Reply #2 on: December 21, 2015, 01:34:30 PM
Thanks for your reply, Annie. This is not a terribly high quality paint. Maybe a step up from student grade. It was one of the first ones I got. Since it is so close in color to my Winsor Newton Scarlet Lake, I think I may just get rid of it. I don't want my whole palette smelling funny.
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Reply #3 on: December 21, 2015, 02:58:56 PM
I have heard that it's best to let your watercolor paints dry before closing them in a palette..mouldiness can happen.  Suecq


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Reply #4 on: December 21, 2015, 03:57:34 PM
Sue, I have heard that, too. But this was paint that smelled funny in the tube.
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Reply #5 on: December 21, 2015, 06:07:18 PM
If you are ready to discard the tube anyway, why not make an experiment.  Squeeze a bit out, add a drop of antiseptic, mixed it well... and smell it tomorrow?
« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 11:49:31 AM by Annie. »
Cheers, Annie
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Reply #6 on: December 21, 2015, 06:15:50 PM
SCRATCH and SNIFF? :painting: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :gl:
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Reply #7 on: December 21, 2015, 06:17:26 PM
 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Cheers, Annie
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BeaSue

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Reply #8 on: December 23, 2015, 04:54:31 AM
SCRATCH and SNIFF? :painting: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :gl:

 :2funny:  :2funny:  :2funny:

Annie, your idea about the experiment was a good one. Unfortunately, I've already tossed it.
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Reply #9 on: December 23, 2015, 11:51:24 AM
Too bad.  We would not want to experiment with good paint!
Cheers, Annie
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Reply #10 on: March 06, 2016, 07:02:09 AM
Hi, Sue!

I just did a search for stinky watercolor paint, and it seems there are brands that do have certain pigments that smell, sometimes like "a fetid garbage dump!" The manufacturer's quality assurance leaves a lot to be desired if they allow even one color to go out like that, so there is no cure for this except to go for another brand for that color.

It seems to happen in the cheaper lines more often than the high-end paints.
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Reply #11 on: March 07, 2016, 06:39:53 AM
Hi, Sue!

I just did a search for stinky watercolor paint, and it seems there are brands that do have certain pigments that smell, sometimes like "a fetid garbage dump!" The manufacturer's quality assurance leaves a lot to be desired if they allow even one color to go out like that, so there is no cure for this except to go for another brand for that color.

It seems to happen in the cheaper lines more often than the high-end paints.

Thanks for your research, Alice. This brand (Lukas) is what I bought when I first began painting. Now I only use quality, professional brands like Winsor Newton, Holbein, etc.
--Susan

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Reply #12 on: March 07, 2016, 11:04:11 PM
In all my years of water colour painting I've never had anything go bad on me.
I've had Raw Umber in Acrylics (Made from clay) go mouldy on me if left too long in the wet palette.
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Reply #13 on: March 08, 2016, 04:04:24 AM
The only w/c paints I've had go bad, (mouldy) we the Reeves when left out in the palette. Never had a problem with W&N. Hoping the few Daniel Smith I have will hold out. The heat and humidity down here is a real test for anything, even me!  :sweat:   35C today without the heat index.
Cheers, Val

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