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Bev S.

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on: May 17, 2015, 01:33:02 PM
I was just given a 3' X 2' canvas. . . . .yay!!! :yippee:
 
Not so fast. . . . . .the canvas has been painted on, in acrylic, and I want to re-use it. It's not a particularly attractive painting, guess that's why it was being given away, hunh?
I decided I'd gesso over it and "Bob's your uncle"!  Hahaha  This coming from the woman who has had so little experience in gessoing (is that a word?) and most of it not spectacular.
Oh well, I have a gallon of gesso lots of fine, fine sandpaper and a very large brush so what could go wrong? :sweat: :eyesclosed:
 
More cursing. . . . .  . .it appears that the previous artist has stretched the canvas him/herself and had access to a staple factory!! Yikes!!
There are staples on the back (right where they should be, but so many??) Then there are staples all around the sides! This is a gallery frame about 1/2" wide and I wanted to paint over the edges but rusty staples were never part of my plans.
 
Help. . . . what do you all think about this? Should I take out all the staples and re stretch the canvas? Is it possible to do that? Hubby could easily make "cookies" to fit in the corners of the frame . . . tighten things up, if necessary.
I wouldn't go to all this trouble, but a $40.00 canvas is worth putting some effort into. . . . from this starving, pensioner, artists viewpoint!!
 
Sooo, a blessing?
Or just a curse?

Bev. . .befuddled and bewildered in the beautiful Annapolis Valley!!   
« Last Edit: May 17, 2015, 01:36:36 PM by Bev S. »
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Reply #1 on: May 17, 2015, 02:25:10 PM
Oh, my dear Bev, so much to think about.  But, guess what?  I know nothing about how to solve your dilemma!  Never worked with gesso or unstapled a canvas.

Yikes, this is a mighty challenge.

I'm sure someone will come to your rescue.

All I ask is a humorous account of all that transpires next!

Good luck.

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Reply #2 on: May 17, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
You guys have a way with words, you make me laught.   Bev sorry I can not help you either.   :-\
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Reply #3 on: May 17, 2015, 06:17:54 PM
Bev--I am sure your gesso approach will work perfectly!!!  As for the staples, I can't imagine trying to remove them!!!  If your hubbie is handy, why not construct a simple frame the width of the edges to cover the staples.  I have seen these rough, homemade frames even in galleries where someone has just painted the wood to blend with the painting. They look good.


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Reply #4 on: May 17, 2015, 06:32:04 PM
Bev. So what I get out of this, is can you take the staples out of the sides? MY opinion I would take the staples out, but leave the ones in the back. If it is not tight you can spray the back of it with water and that will tighten it up or put those wood things in the corners,  and If you have to you can gesso the sides again.
Maybe Nolan or Dennis has a better idea.

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Reply #5 on: May 17, 2015, 11:25:56 PM
Removing all those staples, what a nightmare
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Reply #6 on: May 18, 2015, 07:58:35 AM
 :think:   Even if you remove those staples......would the rust on/in the canvas cause further problems?  :confused:   Would hate to think you go through all that effort only to find that the ingrained rust would bleed through the gesso.  :eek:   I'd quiz Dennis/Nolan on this one.
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Bev S.

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Reply #7 on: May 18, 2015, 10:55:21 AM
Thanks for all your words of wisdom, peeps and for all the things I didn't think about. . . . .like rust! Thanks, Val! I think. . . . .LOL!

I was hoping that either Nolan or the Big D might have a suggestion or two or that some very experienced
canvas stretcher would pop in with some more guidance. . . . . . 

PS @ Val. . . . you have never seen me lay on the Gesso  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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Reply #8 on: May 18, 2015, 06:32:55 PM
PS @ Val. . . . you have never seen me lay on the Gesso  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:


 >:D So....I take it you work better with a trowel?  :whistle:    :2funny:
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Reply #9 on: May 19, 2015, 03:35:22 AM
Take a picture of the stapled canvas Bev.  Would like to see the dilemma your facing
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Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 01:42:45 PM
Removing the rusted staples may cause you to tear the canvas. To stop the rust from seeping through the new gesso and rusting further (gesso is water based) your local hardware store should have a small tin of rust inhibitor which you can apply over the rusted staples - maybe 2 coats.


I normally use a very wide brush to apply the gesso. Apply one coat brushing only lengthwise and then  when   dry apply another coat crosswise and let dry thoroughly.
After this  you may paint directly and use the textured surface as is, or lightly sand the surface to smooth out any marks you don't want.
Hope this helps.
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Reply #11 on: May 20, 2015, 12:51:30 AM
 :clap: Thank you, Dennis, I just knew you would have the answer! :thankyou: :1hug:
So what you are saying is to leave the canvas in it's frame and just get some "cookies" to put in the corners to tighten things up a bit.
Then follow your advice about the rust inhibitor and away we go. The rust is not too bad, yet. . . . .
 
The previous artist left the canvas with lots of little hard bumps in the Acrylic. I wondered if I could sand the existing Acrylic to remove these, before I add the gesso?
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Reply #12 on: May 20, 2015, 12:54:44 AM
PS @ Val. . . . you have never seen me lay on the Gesso  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:


 >:D So....I take it you work better with a trowel?  :whistle:    :2funny:

Either that or a shovel. . . . . . .same with the make-up!  :eek:
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Reply #13 on: May 20, 2015, 01:41:08 AM
I applaud you for repurposing the old canvas.   :gl2:
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Reply #14 on: May 20, 2015, 02:21:07 AM
Take the canvas out of the frame before you gesso otherwise you will damage the frame. Yes you can sandpaper the acrylic before adding the gesso.
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