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Val

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on: August 12, 2015, 01:25:57 PM
Lloyd said I should take time off today and do some artwork, what a guy, gotta love him!
Have you ever wet your paper so much that it buckles but you can't even get a shine on the surface of the paper?  :confused: I can now tell you from personal experience that yes it is very possible!  :tongue:   Taking some time off to get reacquainted with some of my painting paraphernalia, and try out some of the Daniel Smith paints I brought back with a little wet on wet.... can't get the paper to stay wet enough, let alone get the paint to run! This is not a problem I normally have!   :pullhair:
Today is a little cooler, 32C (90F), with humidex feels like 38C (100F).  :sweat:   I can drip no problem...but not my paper!!!  :faint:     :2funny:

I should have taken a video, think Zorro here... I'm sloshing water all over the place with my big mop brush and doing everything short of throwing the pitcher of water on it!  :goofy: I did think about it...  >:D but I'm inside by the doorway, so probably not a good idea. I thought, maybe if I keep sloshing water on the paper with one hand...and kind of sneak up on it with the paint in the other hand...AHA!!!  :o   Well, that didn't work out so well, AND I had to mop up the floor.  :doh: I won't bother filling in the rest of my antics.... you really don't want to know about the spray bottle.....  :whistle:
Perhaps I'll just go check out Nolan's phone lesson, great things pencils!  :whistle: :2funny:
Cheers, Val

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Reply #1 on: August 12, 2015, 02:35:04 PM
Oh, my!  :-\

What a strange, frustrating situation. Has the humidity already saturated your paper? There is probably some logical, chemical reason for this, but how terribly anoying for you, Val.   :'(
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Reply #2 on: August 12, 2015, 05:55:12 PM
The paper was dry Susan, but just keeps soaking in the water and the surface is drying too fast to work properly. I'll just have to go back to painting wet on dry until I can find a solution.  ???
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Reply #3 on: August 12, 2015, 07:11:00 PM
OH, this is such great stuff for that book you're going to write!! Hysterical!
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Reply #4 on: August 12, 2015, 07:33:03 PM
Normally that should not happen in humid conditions. I suggest one reason could be the paper itself.

Most watercolour papers have a sizing, which controls the absorption of the water, applied to one of the surfaces. It could be that your paper has little or no sizing. Either that, or you are using the back of the paper which will absorb water too fast.
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Reply #5 on: August 13, 2015, 04:48:25 AM
Thanks Dennis, I am usually pretty careful about that. I'm guessing you are right about the little to no sizing. To start with I decided not to use my Arches right off. I used a small pad of Daler Rowney w/c paper (bought on sale) which was the worse of the two I tried. The second attempt was a large pad of The Langton also by Daler Rowney. I've used this paper before without too much difficulty, it was the only paper available in Grenada, but have to admit I have never tried wet on wet with that paper.

I have a couple of smaller w/c blocks (A4) I suppose I could try... although I don't usually use my good papers when I'm experimenting. Too costly for some of my more disastrous endeavours!  :whistle:    :2funny:

 :idea: I've just had a brilliant flash! ( :o scary isn't it?) I'm going to attempt it today and will let you know if it works....  :heeha: Look out Lloyd, I'm back!  :eyesclosed:
Cheers, Val

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Reply #6 on: August 13, 2015, 04:53:21 AM
OH, this is such great stuff for that book you're going to write!! Hysterical!

 :doh: Not exactly what I wanted me and my artwork noted for!  ??? :2funny:

However, I am glad you enjoy my trials and tribulations and out and out insanity! I'm so glad Dennis has a rubber room, I may be arriving sooner than he thinks!  >:D
Cheers, Val

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Reply #7 on: August 13, 2015, 06:25:27 AM
I have actually submerged my paper in the sink full of water before. Worked out just fine.  O0

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Reply #8 on: August 13, 2015, 08:53:43 AM
It will be interesting to see if the Arches blocks perform in their usual, fine way. But I know what you mean about wanting to save those for the " good stuff." I think, though, that using cheaper paper for experiments is false economy because you don't really know how the experiments will turn out on good paper. I use the back side of my failed paintings (on Arches) for experiments. I often cut them into halves or quarters.

Looking forward to that brilliant flash of your, Val!  ???
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Reply #9 on: August 14, 2015, 05:25:15 AM
Val it's the paper-I bought some of Daler Rowney Prestige (100% cotton rag). I think Dennis is right about the sizing. That stuff will soak up all the humidity and be really soft, but no shine. It holds on to pigment like nobody's business! I tried to wash off a failed painting-it's still there.

Probably not the best paper for watercolor in high humidity and heat.
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Reply #10 on: August 14, 2015, 06:57:50 AM
Rick, I do that every time I stretch paper. Works a treat with my Arches, not so well with a few others. I think I'm going to stay with the better papers even for my 'moments of madness'!  ::)     :2funny:
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Reply #11 on: August 14, 2015, 06:59:40 AM
Exnay on my 'brilliant flash' Susan!  :doh: I'll be staying with the better papers from now on.
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Reply #12 on: August 14, 2015, 07:14:27 AM
Thanks Natalie, the paper worked not great but ok when I first bought it. I would guess you are correct that it has soaked up all of the humidity. I'll just have to do my experimenting on small scrap from other work. :painting:
Cheers, Val

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