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Reply #120 on: November 03, 2017, 06:48:44 PM
Val, Wow, you are so brave to try the Velour paper.   Friends have told me that it is quite challenging.  Never tried it myself.  This cheetah is beautiful and I love the vibrancy you are getting with your new sticks :)   Post the photo if you can as I agree with the others about modelling of the form.  Seems there should be more darks or perhaps only strategic lights.  Great job though!! Carry on.


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Reply #121 on: November 04, 2017, 10:11:56 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  I have never tried velour paper at all.
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Reply #122 on: November 05, 2017, 02:29:02 AM
Reference

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Reply #123 on: November 05, 2017, 02:30:00 AM
Thanks Mysti. I'll look into that.
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Reply #124 on: November 05, 2017, 02:50:11 AM
Ta much Lynn, I think after my 'mountain' episode I'm a bit gun shy with applying too much pressure. In so doing, some areas could have used a bit more ooph! Perhaps I should have stayed with one of the other papers I was at least a bit familiar with initially.....but, that's me  :heeha: in for a penny, in for a pound, jump right in with both eyes closed!            

The velour really is different to work with, I had thought it wouldn't be too much different than the sanded surfaces. I have learned it requires a much more delicate touch, and you can't move the pastel as you can with the sanded and regular papers. I do love the effects though. I think I may need to research it a bit more before I try the next velour painting.  :whistle: maybe... after all there is no better way of learning than by doing.  :painting:
I  really appreciate your insights.  :thankyou:
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Reply #125 on: November 05, 2017, 02:59:38 AM
Thank you for popping in Dennis. The velour is quite interesting to work with. Some of the colours seemed to 'sink' into the paper and I had to go back over them to reinforce them. I'm thinking that is the case with some of the more shadowed areas. The colour is there....but needs another layer to bring it back. I had to go over the tear marks and some of the spots three times! The effects of this paper intrigue me, and I enjoyed working with it. I think it is just a matter of falling back and.... practice, practice, practice!  :painting: :painting: :painting:    :crazy2:
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Reply #126 on: November 05, 2017, 06:11:25 AM
Thanks Mysti. I'll look into that.

I can see that white dot is there on your reference photo.  Perhaps just dull it a tad?  I am not good at critiques.  I just think your drawing is gorgeous.
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Reply #127 on: November 05, 2017, 09:50:33 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Val, you have done a splendid job on the Cheetah. How I wish you could try some Strathmore Toned Tan paper, I just love it as I have mentioned before. I don't know where you are located and if you can even receive mail, for I would try to post you some to try.  I too, haven't tried Velour paper but I have heard about it. Anyway, with the few tweaks suggested, you will have a gorgeous painting ready to be framed.   


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Reply #128 on: November 05, 2017, 02:11:19 PM
Val, thanks for the reference.  One thing I notice is that in the reference, the spots fade to gray and become less distinct as they move back and away from the viewer.  I wonder if you varied the black and gray in the spots to reflect distance, how that would be.  Just a thought.


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Reply #129 on: November 05, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
Val, you must be thrilled with all this wonderful criticism you are getting. I'm just impressed with the vibrancy of the painting. My only niggle is: in future, please don't do your signature in red! I thought at first it was a wound  :'(, then a laser focus for a gun sight :o, then figured out it was your signature! It gave me a couple of horrified moments, thinking you were making a social comment on the hunting world, or something similar... Nothing wrong with that ....I suppose. :-\ Anyway, for my sake, if you must use red for your signature, please can you not place the signature on the animal. You nearly broke my tender heart.  :2funny: :2funny:


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Reply #130 on: November 06, 2017, 01:16:03 AM
There is a single bright dot under his left eye

My vision isn't that good.... I can't seem to find this elusive white dot!  :detective: Is it under HIS left eye, or on our left?
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Reply #131 on: November 06, 2017, 02:49:58 AM
You are lovely Patricia.  No there is no mail here in Rio Dulce. If we get anything sent to us, it must wait until we get up to Belize. Then it would be sent by Fedex which is prohibitively expensive. Had to have a new credit card sent down to Belize and it cost US$80!!! Our dollar at the time was down 30% off the US$ which made it even worse! Saddest bit was the post box accidentally included one of our tax forms, so cost another US$50 to have it sent back up north!  :faint:    :cost:


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Reply #132 on: November 06, 2017, 03:47:05 AM
There is a single bright dot under his left eye

My vision isn't that good.... I can't seem to find this elusive white dot!  :detective: Is it under HIS left eye, or on our left?

It is under his left eye, which on the right side of the drawing.  It is so small, possibly it is just an artifact caused when taking a picture.  Here it is zoomed.  Open it full size and you should be able to see it.
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Reply #133 on: November 06, 2017, 11:21:07 AM
 :heeha:     :detective: That is a tiny crumb that must have come off the pastel pencil! I was looking for a somewhat larger dot!  :doh:     :2funny:

Wow you have good eyes!  :eek: No problem Mysti, I can just pick that off with the putty rubber.
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Reply #134 on: November 06, 2017, 12:45:30 PM
Val, I am sad that I can't post you any paper because of the prohibitive costs involved for I would have loved you to try it.  Oh! Well, something may come up yet to enable you to get a supply. 


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