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Val

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on: May 31, 2014, 12:24:13 PM
I don't know if anyone would be interested, so I don't necessarily need a full class (would be nice  ;) ).

Dennis, would it be too much to ask if you could do a small segment on proper use of the dip pen and ink? I'll be posting some more work shortly....could sure use some pointers for future works.

Porfavor y gracias Senor Dennis.  ;) ;D
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Reply #1 on: May 31, 2014, 01:44:28 PM
If it's a live class super slow would be good.  ;D

Maybe a different color of ink?
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Reply #2 on: May 31, 2014, 01:52:57 PM
 O0 Good idea Val for I only have the dip pen and India Ink.  Haven't had a chance to look at the Pen and Ink site yet so don't know what the requirements are.  However, as I only have the dip pen, I think that would be great.


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Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 03:33:12 PM
Patricia, I only have the dip pen as well. I've experimented with it, but I really don't know how to use it to the best advantage. I do so love the effects of pen and ink so really want to learn the ins and outs.

 >:D Natalie....we'll really have to put the reins on Dennis for this one!  :eek: Otherwise he'll be repeating himself so many times everyone will think he stutters! :2funny:
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Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 06:06:21 PM
I've been using the dip pen and ink at least 80% of the time  in the pen and ink studies. The pen with the porcupine quill is the small dip pen O0 I sometime s show the plastic holder with the ink in it.
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Reply #5 on: May 31, 2014, 06:22:47 PM
Thanks Dennis, I just spent 3 hours and managed to see the first half of the golden eagle. I couldn't help but laugh at the start when I saw you using the dip pen. I have a bit of a problem when I try and pick up on a line after I reload with ink. I tend to get a blob which of course when I try to fix it.....  :crazy2: just gets to be a bigger blob! What am I doing wrong?  :confused:
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Reply #6 on: May 31, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
Val, will explain that in another lesson O0
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Reply #7 on: June 01, 2014, 02:05:34 AM
Thank you Dennis.  :clap:    :yippee:
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Reply #8 on: August 09, 2016, 06:31:23 PM
 :help: I have started viewing the pen and ink classes. I have my Micron pens and am comfortable using them. What I am unfamiliar with is the proper usage of the dip pen and ink. When I was watching Dennis in the elephant class, he drew for a long time without redipping. When I was experiementing with my nibs, I could barely get a 2 inch line before I would run out of ink. How do you properly dip the pen to hold enough ink? I am a total newbie to this. Is there an advantage to using dip pens over Micron pens?  :confused:
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Reply #9 on: August 09, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
No real advantage in general. However, with a good quality dip pen nib, by varying the pressure, you can control the  varying thicknesses of the line. O0
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Reply #10 on: August 09, 2016, 07:45:25 PM
some tips as far as whatever little experience....

 a.  try not to dip the nib fully in ink to avoid blobs.
 b. fill  some ink in a small seprate  container filling the ink  max 2 mm in height.
 c.  once you dip , try to tap on the container  for any extra ink on the  nib.
 
 Finally practice practice ......is the real secret to master  O0 O0 O0

 hope this makes sense!  O0





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Reply #11 on: August 09, 2016, 08:33:07 PM
 :thankyou: Thank you Dennis and Cyril for your suggestions and information.
I played with my pens a little more and found that I wasn't dipping deep enough to load the nib. I was being very stingy with the amount of ink I put in my little container. Now that I have plenty of ink in my container, I was able to load the nib, I do see that I need to tap to remove the excess ink.
I like the ease and portability of the Microns but I think I'm going to have lots of fun learning to manipulate the lines with the dip pens.  :yippee:
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Reply #12 on: August 10, 2016, 05:28:40 AM
Your discussion give me the idea to try.  I had found my nib and holder which I used as a child to learn writing.  Wonder if still good.  The ink bottle was dry so I got a bottle of Indian ink from the art store.

Now I have to find an old desk with the pre-cut hole on the right side  :2funny:  :2funny:   :2funny:  Brings back the pain of having to switch to using my right hand at school.

Sure would be more fun then using a micron pen.

Maybe just a weeny titsy little live lesson on how to use the pen and a few tips... like how to prevent the kid, sitting behind you, from dipping the tip of your brade in the ink bottle   ::)
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Cheers, Annie
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Reply #13 on: August 10, 2016, 01:31:08 PM
Annie, I used to draw quite a bit with my dip pen, somehow got away from it. Still one of my favourite drawing tools!
I did try one of my own design right after one or two lessons! It shows!!! It's an old truck posted in my Drawing Originals folder if you're interested. It was a bit of an experiment to try out a bunch of the different effects.

That's me...I get so excited when something new comes along I have to dive right in! I would recommend an old shirt (like in kindergarten)... india ink doesn't wash out!  :doh:    :2funny:
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Reply #14 on: August 10, 2016, 03:55:00 PM
Your discussion give me the idea to try.  I had found my nib and holder which I used as a child to learn writing.  Wonder if still good.  The ink bottle was dry so I got a bottle of Indian ink from the art store.

Now I have to find an old desk with the pre-cut hole on the right side  :2funny:  :2funny:   :2funny:  Brings back the pain of having to switch to using my right hand at school.

Sure would be more fun then using a micron pen.

Maybe just a weeny titsy little live lesson on how to use the pen and a few tips... like how to prevent the kid, sitting behind you, from dipping the tip of your brade in the ink bottle   ::)

 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: You are so funny Annie AND Val!!!  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

I did not find any tutorials about preventing class room pranks  :P but..... I did find some basic pen and ink tutorials on youtube.  :D

Now I'm playing with the basic exercises in Dennis's intro class. The practice sheets kind of remind me of practicing scales on the piano.  ::) Repetitive and not too exciting but  good for hand and eye coordination. Soon enough, I will move on to that lovely elephant I've been eyeing since I first found PB!  :yippee:
Kathy S.


 

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