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Val

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on: October 03, 2017, 05:44:50 AM
 :confused:   A query for all you pastelists out there.

I have been researching how to set up your palette in your pastel box. It seems to come down to two main options. One, is to lay it out based on colour (much like the colour wheel).  The second, is to lay it out based on value. Which would be darks, mid tones, and lights.

Is one preferential over the other? Benefits?

I also understand the old adage of "whatever works best for you", but as a newcomer to the world of pastel trying to sort out the myriad of colours, shade, and tints, it's all a bit daunting.

So.... what method do you use, how do you set up your box?
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Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 04:51:56 PM
Crumbs Val, I use my pencil pastels and sticks as they come packed in the box or tin.  I have never thought of arranging them in any order because a lot of Pastel tutors, using the pencils, which I use almost exclusively too, refer to the numbers to be used and not the colours or anything else.  Just shows you, we learn every day.  Anyway, I will be watching closely to see what the other pastelists do. Thanks for posting this interesting question.


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Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
I don't do pastel painting but looked at Dennis video and what I thought was an impressive collection of pastels.  I assume the idea is the same for any media using colors (even with only 10 tubes of paint).

I can picture the colour wheel now and this how I arrange my paints and pencils.  That. Seems logical to me.

But I hear Dennis vouce in my head saying "colour is not so important, having the correct tonal value is what makes a great painting"... so tonal arrangement may be the key to a great painting.

Now if only I could see tonal values between differeny hues  :-\
I still have to use the balck and white photocopy machine... and I am routinely surprised as how far off I am... yes, I know, practice, practice, and more practice.
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Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 07:20:06 PM
I think at this point I'm just going to try and organize them by colour. It may take a month or more  :crazy2: but I figure sooner or later I'll end up with some semblance of order!  :D I'm sure I'll get to know them as I use them and can rearrange them as necessary. I think that will be my job tomorrow, to start setting up my box so I'm ready to rock and roll!  :heeha: I will be using the cheaper pastels I have for practicing and doing lessons.

I also use my pencils from the tins they came in.
 
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Reply #4 on: October 05, 2017, 07:23:26 PM
You are right on that Annie, value is key. I have trouble sorting value when looking at colours. That will be something that comes with time. I just know when it 'feels' right!  ;D
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Reply #5 on: October 06, 2017, 04:44:28 AM
Maybe you should keep your cheap pastels from your good ones... I would gringe at the idea of mixing student and prof oils in a good painting.  :-\
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Reply #6 on: October 06, 2017, 07:25:49 AM
My Staedtler pastels are regarded as 'Studio Quality', not sure exactly what that means, but they are the ones I used for my frog. The colours are lovely and bright, and creamy smooth to lay down. But I will keep them separate in their own box. O0
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Reply #7 on: October 06, 2017, 10:46:16 AM
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