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bamagal

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on: October 08, 2013, 01:27:21 PM
As I was watching the lets draw videos and all the different points I was wondering if I should keep a set of pencils with each style of sharpened tips. Wouldn't that save a lot on wasted medium to have pencils at the ready with  the point already in a particular shape than to take one and make it into the other?

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Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 01:37:06 PM
I guess it's a matter of choice. How would you know which tip to put on which pencil?  :confused:
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Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 01:44:55 PM
yeah I know thats a good question too. I have a lot of pencils right now seems everyone bought me some, so I thought since I have several of each I would just put a different point on them and see how that works for me. I even found some at a thrift store that look like new.

I guess the question is what points are used most often by someone just starting out. I know you would probably use all types in a drawing so I guess I will just do an assortment of them and play around with them to get the feel of what each point and pencil will do.
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Reply #3 on: October 08, 2013, 01:58:25 PM
Oh, no.  This whole pencil tip thing sounds like something else I have to learn.  YIKES.

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Reply #4 on: October 24, 2013, 01:38:37 PM
so as I am watching the course, and loving it, I noticed I skipped over the stroke exercise. So now I am doing it, and plan on doing it many times. The question I have is......

should I do a set of the exercises each with a different tip on the pencil, which is what I plan on doing, to see the different effect it has. And just how does one decide which shape to use, I guess that will come with practice, but for right now I am a bit confused  :idiot2:

I know the point is for fine lines and details, but then I am  :confused: about the flat round, the chisel, and the spear. I guess I just need to practice, practice, practice with all of them and then practice some more..... :faint:

And then maybe do a set with all the different pencils so I can compare them??????  :idiot2:
« Last Edit: October 24, 2013, 03:33:32 PM by bamagal »
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Reply #5 on: October 24, 2013, 03:17:34 PM
I'll let you in on a little secret.... I used to use a carpenter's flat pencil to sketch....  you can get them in some art shops, also hardware shops, go figure!  :heeha: and they are available in a number of different leads ( 2B, 4B etc.) Perfect for chisel tips as the lead is already flat!  O0

Other than that I use regular round leads. Haven't seen any flat pencils since arriving down here so just rounds for me! Must conserve my lead....never know when I'll be able to replace my pencils.
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Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 04:55:27 PM
In my opinion, haveing different points on your pencil is not worth the time or waste of graphite.  What Val said about the carpenteres pencil is a good idea though.  Carpenter pencils are a bit uncomftorable to hold, but good for sketches and areas that need brawd strokes and such.
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Reply #7 on: October 28, 2013, 01:21:41 PM
I keep two sets, one with the chisel point, the other with the flat round, plus a mechanical pencil for detail work


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Reply #8 on: October 28, 2013, 01:53:27 PM
I just found some jumbo size pencils at the art supply last week, I really like them for shading in areas there is just so much more of a pencil tip area ant it seems like I have better control with shading. I bought a couple to try as I wasnt sure I would like holding a pencil that big but I really do. So next trip I plan on getting more of them.  :thankyou:
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Reply #9 on: October 28, 2013, 03:29:12 PM
I like the Cretacolor monolith woodless pencils for shading.

http://www.pullingers.com/p/917057/cretacolor-monolith-pocket-set/
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