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mea hamo pena

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Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« on: September 28, 2013, 10:01:55 AM »

Aloha folks,

This is not a great photo (taken with webcam), but the WATERCOLOR painting came out better than I thought it would.

The mountains were supposed to be blue but they looked purple so I did a wash (?) over them in black.

The mountains on the left are too high.  Need to learn how to make the two layers of mountains not look so one-dimensional.

Used some purple in the clouds for the first time.

I feel really good about it, though, as it looked really bad mid-way through the painting.

What else does it need?

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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2013, 10:31:47 AM »
Mea, this is a watercolor??Can't believe it.  The clouds are so bright white.  Amazing and beautiful color choices.  Just love the purple in the clouds.  The only suggestion I could make is to determine where the sun is coming from (I think the left) and lighten a few spots on the front island.  Love it :flowers:

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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2013, 10:44:16 AM »
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Mea what a beautiful painting.  Your clouds are magical.  Good for you.  Patricia
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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2013, 11:29:39 AM »
Mea

I think that little island you have chosen makes a great subject.

Now this is meant to be constructive criticism - not to say what you have done is bad...

I see the the problem with the painting being a lack of distance - but if you consider the comments below - that island would really pop out of the painting.

 I noticed is that when I did the squint test all of the land masses fell into the same tonal range. Try it by squinting your eyes while looking at the centre of the picture - you'll notice that all the land virtually all the land goes to one tone. Remember that as things recede into the distance, you generally indicate that by making the tone lighter and lighter.

You can correct that distance by lifting out a little of the colour from the brown layer, and a bit more colour from those dark mountains at the back - it will at the same time push the mountains further into the distance, and also  drag that really unique island right into the foreground where it belongs. It's not so much a case of changing the colour of each layer, but the intensity of the pigment in each layer.

Also, the clouds - they in themselves look nice, but if you had the bottom of them pass behind the island by lowering the bottom (ie having a little of the cloud around the top of the island) you could create greater distance. You can also do that now, by lifting out some of the sky colour around the tip of the island

I seem to remember from the reflections lesson with the fisherman in the boat, where dennis said that the more layers you can create, the greater the depth you create.

Remember, these are just suggestions - if you are happy with your painting, that is all that matters. But I think if you gave it a try (maybe on a second attempt even) it really would make that island pop for the viewer.

Batman.

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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2013, 11:37:05 AM »
A-WOW!!!!!! What a painting  :yippee: .   I go with Lynn to give the island a little light.

Would you please reveal the secret of your clouds?? Where did you hide the batteries? :heeha:

Did you leave the white of the clouds dry or did you lift the blue paint with a kitchen towel or something? It looks really really great
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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2013, 02:37:28 PM »
Helena 12,

Thank you.    My first experiment with watercolor clouds failed. I had used white colored pencil to draw in the clouds before applying any paint at all.  I guess I thought that the paint would "resist" the colored pencil and my clouds would be there with no other effort.  WRONG!

So, I  then brushed white paint into cloud shapes on the blue sky.  Then I brushed on a very watered down purple to create the pinkish clouds.

When I do oil painting, I paint the clouds with my finger as taught by my art teacher in my senior citizen art class.  I like doing clouds.

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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2013, 03:04:14 PM »
Thank you for your comments on my Chinaman's Hat watercolor.

Batman - I really appreciate the time you took to analyze the painting.  I will go back and try to make the corrections that you have suggested.  You really focused on the things that bothered me about the painting. 

Lynn - In the photo of the scene,  it seems that the sun is directly overhead.  So, should I just make it come from either site using my artistic license to move heaven and earth?

Patricia - Yes, the "magic" is that the clouds turned out well at all.

Helena12 - I sent you my method of doing clouds in a separate post.

OK, I'm going to work on this a bit more and if it can't be corrected satisfactorily, I will redo because I LOVE this island and want it to be right.

aloha, with great gratitude,

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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2013, 04:09:42 PM »
Mea. I like this painting a lot.  I like the subject matter and the composition.   But, I have to agree with Batman, it lacks the feel of distance.   Everything is a bit too dark.....Once you have tweaked this, it will be wonderful! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2013, 05:03:09 PM »
Thanks, Mary Lou.  I am working on the improvements right now.

Looks a lot better already.

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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2013, 10:21:03 PM »
Okay, white paint.  :thankyou: Watercolour, gouache, acrylic?
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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2013, 10:58:44 PM »
Oh, I'm sorry, Helena.  It was white watercolor paint with almost no water added.  I just used circular motions with the brush.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2013, 11:00:45 PM »
Thanks to all who offered suggestions.  Worked for hours tweaking and fiddling.  Still not perfect, but much better.  Learned a lot -- so that's the most important thing.


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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2013, 02:45:43 AM »
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Mea, a wonderful painting and Batman, I think is right in what he suggested. However, as I am just a beginner and in fear of too much "fiddling" as Dennis always warns us about, it is in my humble opinion, that I would have suggested just lightening the back mountains by taking some of the pigment off which was too bold and melded everything into one as Batman so rightly said.  I would have thought that that would have made the Chinaman's hat pop. Apart from too much pigment which was brought to our notice, I loved everything else about the first painting you did and while the second one is very good, I find that you have "outlined" the mountains which I feel should be "soft" and not so defined. Just my observation.  Patricia
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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2013, 03:34:05 AM »
Well done Mea - lowering the clouds a little really helped drag that island forward! And the squint test shows a distinction between the island and the background.

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Re: Chinaman's Hat Oahu Hawaii
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2013, 05:28:20 AM »
Hi Mea, is the second painting a completely different painting, or did you paint over the first one?
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