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MSWcrane

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on: June 02, 2013, 11:18:35 AM
When you (Nolan & Dennis) say use Cadmium Yellow (oil colors), which one do you want me to use, there are a few, 'pale', 'light', 'medium', or 'lemon'?  I am sure it must make a difference how the mix turns out.  :confused:
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musika

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Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 11:25:14 AM
Medium.
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MSWcrane

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Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 12:10:04 PM
When I compare the look of Cad Yel Med to what Nolan is putting on his pallet mine looks much darker and more orange, is that OK?

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musika

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Reply #3 on: June 02, 2013, 01:10:14 PM
I have put together this jpeg of Cad yellow medium swatches from 8 of the top manufacturers of oil paint. You will see a big difference in the colours of them. If you don't like the colour of your Cad Y, look at the swatches on the Dick Blick site and choose another brand.

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Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 08:25:04 AM
 :thankyou: Ray this so helpful....
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Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 08:34:16 AM
Thanks so much, will give it a try  :thankyou:
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Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 08:59:10 AM
Was just reading an old post re:Cad Yellow, it referenced "real Cadmium Yellow as "PY37" and how if you have that number you have true Cad Yellow.  So thought OK now I have a chance of getting it right.  :)

So I looked at my paints.  I have two totally different Grumbacher Artists quality paints Cadmium Barium Yellows, both having the same number of PY35:1, one is 'Pale' (looks yellow) and one is 'Medium' (looks Orange).  :o 

How can that be  :confused:
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Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 09:27:48 AM
My Zellen 'Cadmium Yellow' is (PY 35), Cadmium Zinc Sulphide. I also have a W&N 'Cadmium Yellow Hue' which is (PY 65), Arylide Yellow. These are oils. I have no answer, maybe one of the manufacturers can throw light on it.


musika

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Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 12:05:51 PM
PY37 is a pigment number (Pigment Yellow 37) It is not a colour. The colour produced will depend on many things in the process of producing it e.g. how finely the pigment is ground; what type of oil is used; how much, if any, filler is used.
Also, manufacturers will use different cadmiums ( cad sulphide; cad II sulphide; cad zinc sulphide) and combinations to get the colour that THEY want in their line.
Gamblin does a cad yellow medium using PY37. It's the 3rd one down in the swatch I posted.
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Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 01:16:46 PM
as far as my Cad Yellow. Rather use a lighter yellow than one that has orange in it, so if in doubt rather go for a Cad Yellow Light.


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Reply #10 on: June 05, 2013, 08:59:43 AM
Nolan, that is what I did based on how it looked on line compared to my paints.   :thankyou:
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Reply #11 on: June 05, 2013, 09:03:29 AM
Thanks for the explanation on the difference in cad yellows, now that I know the numbers are pigments, not colors, it makes much more sense.   O0
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Reply #12 on: June 05, 2013, 12:11:42 PM
I know I'm late with this response, but just had to jump in because I was also having difficulty finding Cadmium Yellow. I finally found one by Holbein at Blicks but only got the 20ml size because it's costly.

This is the color chart for their yellows with the price.  Hopefully you can find it cheaper someplace else.


Maybe someone will find this helpful.
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Reply #13 on: June 05, 2013, 02:40:45 PM
All the cadmium colours are costly because the cadmium needed is more rare than other pigments and the costs of extraction and purification are high.


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Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 07:36:41 PM
 :thankyou: Thanks Lanie, not too late I am still learning, and will pick a better Cad Yellow with my next purchase.

Yes Germa, they are all expensive, now I know why, appreciate the info.  :)
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