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Reply #30 on: May 31, 2013, 08:04:46 AM
 :2funny:

hahahaha, you're lucky 'drop' isn't very nice to paint, because those are my favourites.


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Reply #31 on: May 31, 2013, 10:00:30 AM
Germa, I need to send you a bag of jellybeans!
 

'Jelly Belly' jelly beans  :heeha:    :licklips:
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Reply #32 on: May 31, 2013, 10:14:45 AM
Now I get very curious. I have to order them in one of those US-stuff shops we've got.
I already did a google search and found a online shop who sends them home.


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Reply #33 on: May 31, 2013, 10:22:18 AM
make sure they're "Jelly Belly's!"
"Purple alone is pretty, but place mint green alongside and the purple becomes glorious. Sometimes we need to be a green in a purple person's life." ~Carolyn Blish


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Reply #34 on: May 31, 2013, 10:31:12 AM
 O0   Another jelly bean connoisseur!  :2funny:
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Reply #35 on: May 31, 2013, 04:40:14 PM

Ah, don't think so voodoolady.


If you have a gander at this:
http://www.copyright.org.au/admin/cms-acc1/_images/13968746614f389f7994505.pdf


The first question on page 4 - "Can I copy small parts of a work available on the internet?"


Indicates pretty much the opposite. And that is from the Australian Copyright Council.


Batman.


The key here is the word "copying" as I said you need to change a % of the image so it is not an exact reproduction of the image.....you can add a tree or animals or change the colours around or all of the above and it's not copying.  I had a friend who had a logo very similar to a well known surf clothing range and he was required to make a 10% change to the image so he didn't breach copyright laws.   He did this and there was no problem.   

If you can 100% replicate an image onto canvas I envy you :)


Also from the same site you will see this under Artists and Copyright
"Ideas and styles are NOT protected
Copyright protects particular works, NOT the ideas, information, styles or techniques used in
creating the works."

More info here

http://www.copyright.org.au/admin/cms-acc1/_images/342838564504046861d3bf.pdf

Note this is in Australia only and each country has their own Copyrights laws. 
« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 05:10:05 PM by voodoolady »
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Reply #36 on: May 31, 2013, 06:12:53 PM
vodoolady, this is exactly why this stuff sucks.

I re-read it and you can't just take a photo of the Eiffel Tower and plonk a colple lovingly look at holding hands. And then go and say this is my new copyrighted painting.

You have to change a "substantial part" what is the (not gonna produce the full text but..) focal point of  the original image.

In Bryces case - and explore every avenue you have to (freely) mate, I think he's been hit by sharks chasing easy dollars.

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Reply #37 on: May 31, 2013, 06:20:35 PM
O0   Another jelly bean connoisseur!  :2funny:

you gotta try jelly bellys with buttered popcorn (theatre butter popcorn is best ;) ) .......
 
I think we're background chatter amongst all this serious legal stuff here Val and Germa  ::)
« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 06:29:27 PM by Denise320 »
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Reply #38 on: May 31, 2013, 06:22:49 PM
I know that I have said I will not comment further on copyright, but it seems that most still do not get the crux of copyright matters.
If you take a pertinent photograph or painting and copy it in a different style you have infringed the copyright law. If you take a painting and just change colours to make it look different you have still infinged the copyright of the artist/photographer.

Read my previous remarks: You MUST make SUBSTANTIAL changes so that it is almost indistinguishable from the original.

Here is a section from the Australian Copyright link mentioned in the previous post:

Can I use another person's work without their permission if I make changes?

You do not escape the obligation to get permission by making changes or additions to a work (such as changing the colours). If you put the two works side by side and identify important parts that have been copied, it is likely that you need permission.


Study this paragraph very carefully :(
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Reply #39 on: May 31, 2013, 06:34:08 PM
vodoolady, this is exactly why this stuff sucks.

I re-read it and you can't just take a photo of the Eiffel Tower and plonk a colple lovingly look at holding hands. And then go and say this is my new copyrighted painting.


Batman

In Australia you could.....public buildings are not covered by copyright law ie.  You can take photographs and/or paint photos of  the Sydney opera house without the permission of the Opera House Trust
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Reply #40 on: May 31, 2013, 06:41:14 PM
I know that I have said I will not comment further on copyright, but it seems that most still do not get the crux of copyright matters.
If you take a pertinent photograph or painting and copy it in a different style you have infringed the copyright law. If you take a painting and just change colours to make it look different you have still infinged the copyright of the artist/photographer.

Read my previous remarks: You MUST make SUBSTANTIAL changes so that it is almost indistinguishable from the original.

Here is a section from the Australian Copyright link mentioned in the previous post:

Can I use another person's work without their permission if I make changes?

You do not escape the obligation to get permission by making changes or additions to a work (such as changing the colours). If you put the two works side by side and identify important parts that have been copied, it is likely that you need permission.


Study this paragraph very carefully :(

It's a very fine line and it also depends on things like the subject....if you are using a photo of the Opera house and you could have taken the same photo yourself then as public buildings do not come under copyright law (unless stated) you would be ok as long as things like clouds, people in the photo or objects are not the same....the keyword is likely and a side by side comparision of key factors .....I guess it's a good thing I prefer to work off my own photos :)
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Reply #41 on: June 01, 2013, 03:28:24 AM
Plus, the bit that really muddies the waters is that copyright laws will vary from country to country.

My take is this:
If the photograph was taken by someone, anyone, other than yourself....get their permission. If you are unable to get their permission for any reason...DON'T USE IT.
Cheers, Val

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Reply #42 on: June 01, 2013, 12:53:54 PM
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Reply #43 on: June 01, 2013, 02:13:46 PM
Camera is never to far away from me. Where ever I go, she is with me. I have so many pictures taken, I need a long time to get them done. For exotics, I'll stay with Dennis lessons on turtles, parrots and for sure in the future we will get some more. It is the safe way. Doina
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Reply #44 on: June 02, 2013, 05:23:07 PM
Plus, the bit that really muddies the waters is that copyright laws will vary from country to country.

My take is this:
If the photograph was taken by someone, anyone, other than yourself....get their permission. If you are unable to get their permission for any reason...DON'T USE IT.

Keep in mind their having the query in the first place means you've acknowledged your interest in their work.  If you do construct a painting, even changed, when they've refused permission then you've got no legal defence.


 

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