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Pebble

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on: May 15, 2013, 10:45:35 PM
Sorry folks but I have another copyright question.   :yawn:  I am very new to this fabulous hobby of painting and as I am now on week 11 of Denis's watercolour course   :smart:  I have been looking on the internet for more pictures to paint.  What I would like to know is, can I just download a picture I have found for instance on 'Google Images' (often a painting rather than a photo) copy it, and if I do this am I alowed to put it on the forum for comments and guidance from fellow members.  I am certainly not intending to sell any of these paintings.  I know there are sites which have copyright free photos but I feel it would be easier to copy another painting rather than a photo at the stage I am at with my limited experience.   :confused:  :confused:   :thankyou:
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Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 01:22:41 AM
No No No!

You should search on the forum, there were loads of discussions on copyright. Nolan also did a class on Painting from Photographs and he discussed this issue there too.

Use only images from free places like morguefile.com Make sure your sources are always copyright and royalty free! Do not use someone else photograph, it can get you in heaps of trouble, if you do wish to make use of someone's photo, get permission from them. They can just say yes or no!

Good luck and remember rather be safe than sorry.

Ps: I really recommend you watch that class I was talking about  ;)
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Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 10:55:13 AM
What does UK law say about copyright? Does it have something along the lines of 'Fair Use' doctrine?


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Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 11:51:55 AM
Photos found using the Google Image search are a big no no.

You can paint them, but then you have to keep them for yourself. You may not even share a photo of the painting here / Facebook, etc.


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Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
Nolan also posted this handy list of lessons you can take that discuss the issue:

http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=4225.msg69472

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Reply #5 on: May 16, 2013, 10:06:55 PM
 Many thanks for your replies, I thought that was probably the case  :(  Oh well I'll just have to go out and take some photos myself and try to paint them, hopefully with help and guidance from my new Paintbasket friends.   :thankyou: for the links Nolan I will certainly have a look at these too, and of course carry on with Denis's watercolour classes.  I love  :painting:

Penny
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Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 03:26:13 AM
That's the ticket Penny. Don't forget we have a section of photos presented for our use right here on PB. PLUS...Nolan's big surprise!  :heeha:
Cheers, Val

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Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 03:40:46 AM
Val it's now more like, "Nolan's big announcement" because it's not so much a surprise any more.

 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

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Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 05:34:58 AM
It is if you haven't seen it yet!  ;)
Cheers, Val

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Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 04:41:04 PM
In Australia as long as a % of the drawing/logo is not exact then you can paint it

For instance if someone posted a lovely photo of a sunrise on a lake with trees you can add or remove trees and as it's not an exact replica but your interpretation of the photo then it's not a breach of copyright.

Hence I guess the phrase "artistic license"
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Reply #10 on: May 29, 2013, 06:37:14 PM

Ah, don't think so voodoolady.


If you have a gander at this:
http://www.copyright.org.au/admin/cms-acc1/_images/13968746614f389f7994505.pdf


The first question on page 4 - "Can I copy small parts of a work available on the internet?"


Indicates pretty much the opposite. And that is from the Australian Copyright Council.


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Reply #11 on: May 29, 2013, 07:29:00 PM
Another option Pebble, is to check out www.paintmyphoto.com. There, the photographers actually want you to paint their pics. There's a pretty nice selection too  :)
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Reply #12 on: May 29, 2013, 08:36:53 PM
I was recently sent a $2000  bill by Getty Images for an image infraction.  They sent me a copy of my web page and a copy of their art work they claim I copied.  I saw no resemblance.  I ignored the bill and received another. I looked carefully at their picture this time.  I finally saw what happened.  I bought a space on a server that had boiler plate pages. I launched my site using one of their pages and thought nothing of it.  Upon closer examination I saw a 2 cm cloud on my web page that matched a cloud on their photograph.  There was no other piece of art that even resembled the original  Getty image.  They have some program combing the web looking for similar infringements.   Remember, I thought I was purchasing original art work for my web page but the artist took a small 2 cm cloud from a Getty photo, changed its color, digitized it,  and then turned it into part of a city scape. One would never suspect they were related but some how Getty did.  I was billed 2k for something I could have never known.   Be very careful!!!!
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Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013, 11:11:53 PM
 :o yikes!! :o
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Reply #14 on: May 30, 2013, 02:44:32 AM
That's really nasty to hear Bryce.

As far as I can tell, you've been caught on that really crappy edge between the letter of the law and the spirit behind the law.

Glad you let us know. If that's the type of company Getty Images is, then they are filed away in my basket of "never to employ the services of ever."

Did a Google search and look at how their Google results display would suck you in:

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Find high resolution royalty-free images, editorial stock photos, vector art, video footage clips and stock music licensing at the richest image search photo library
(attribution that this was search results text  from Google)

You mightn't have intentionally used it, but so might not the person creating the boilerplate, or mightn't have informed you that they'd included copyrighted material in their boilerplate...

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