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Reply #15 on: January 08, 2013, 02:29:29 PM
 :yippee: Great job on the fruitbasket Tony  :clap:   :clap: 
As much as I hate to admit it  >:D  it looks like you have a pretty good idea of your shadow colourings.  O0
 :jk:  You really do and I don't hate to admit it ... you're doing famously.  :yippee:
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Reply #16 on: January 08, 2013, 03:20:49 PM
Ah Val! U R such a sweet little Turtle!  :thankyou: 


Yeah, I'm such a shady figure I just had to get them casts laying proper or, I'd be in trouble!
The fruit has been shouting for me to 'be as one with them' (eat 'em!) but, no way Ozzay, not when chocolate chip cookies shout louder!
I'm devoting time to practicals this year. So, I have to be disciplined. I need a kicking into touch. Any willing executioners you know of?!  :knuppel2:

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Reply #17 on: January 08, 2013, 03:49:26 PM
This is my cluttered desk! (like my mind I suppose!  :D )
I need to have a tidy up. I just moved back to this spot yesterday after using an unsuitable area.
Oh, notice that flexi arm device I got for Xmas. It holds the iPad brilliantly. It's heavy duty and good quality, so far. I can adjust it to almost any way I need it. I just wobbles a little bit when I use the iPad.


larger image here in Gallery: http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?action=media;sa=item;in=6577


This picture might show it better:
[size=78%]larger image here in Gallery: [/size]http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?action=media;sa=item;in=6578



« Last Edit: January 08, 2013, 03:52:44 PM by Tony (ASM) »
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Reply #18 on: January 09, 2013, 04:59:01 AM
Your workspace is very nearly like mine tony. One of these days I'm going to end up drinking my cup of turpentine. I always have something to drink right beside me. But my space is very cluttered and tight.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


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Reply #19 on: January 10, 2013, 08:29:38 AM
Yeah, my workstation is a very small place in the Hall. It's a disorganised shambles at the moment and will probably stay so for quite a long time!


Today I managed to work within the area though. I made that video I posted ( http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=3397.0 ) and, I've been practising more of my pen drawings. This one of a simple landscape. It's more about learning how to and where to apply those lines. Different directions, angles, distance, cross hatching, shadows etc. I need lots of practice!
Here's the result and the photo:






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*additional* I added trees, Birds and more shadow a day later. To compare:

« Last Edit: January 11, 2013, 01:47:27 AM by Tony (ASM) »
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Reply #20 on: January 10, 2013, 08:56:43 AM
LIked the video Tony. I also have a very cramped area. It's nuts..the minute I'm looking for something I just put down, i'm looking everywhere..under the bed, everywhere!
Means we have to make everything very very organized in such a tight space. I just put my tracing paper up against my photo that is taped to my window here in the room. Like i said before..as long as I'm not putting 16 x 20 nudes on the window, I'm fine with the neighbors. :D
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Reply #21 on: January 10, 2013, 08:59:32 AM
Interesting topic, here, Tony.. I think I'll bookmark this too, for future reference.  Your drawings look great.
After reading through, however, a strange picture came to mind of a turtle riding a camel.  Imagine that!   :eek: !
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Reply #22 on: January 11, 2013, 01:44:22 AM
Dianne! That would make a great picture! In fact, it'd make a great movie!  ;D


I've added a couple of trees to my drawing. I wasn't happy with the overall look. It needed trees and a few birds.
I'll leave it there now and get on with more practicals including water colours:


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Reply #23 on: January 11, 2013, 04:50:16 AM
Everything looks great Tony. Let me just say on the trees to be aware of varying things like the trunks next time. Make each one more indpendent. The curving is nice, but make one slightly less identical ..is the word i'm looking for. ..maybe a little snaking even..some trunks do have bumps etc in them.
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Reply #24 on: January 11, 2013, 06:10:06 AM
I looked for this yesterday to tell you how much I liked it, but couldn't find it. I really love the sky and clouds. Amazing how hatching can produce that effect. Especially is I am not doing the hatching. The shaping and shading in the clouds is perfect. I like that you have moved from lighter bg to darker in the foreground. O0
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Reply #25 on: January 11, 2013, 07:11:31 AM
I saw your small space, Tony.  Shake hands, mine's the same.  I share our small den with hubby who's a stamp collector and likes to have his stuff spread out past the half way point.   :(

I really like your drawing, liked it better before the trees.  Like Pat says, you could improve them by making them not so much like a pair of twins.  It shouldn't be a problem, just keep those pencils working.  You're doing fantastic work. I love the composition, the lines, the contrasts and the shading, so nicely done!   :congrats:   
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Reply #26 on: January 11, 2013, 07:43:43 AM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:  Pat, Sarah & Lillian. I really appreciate your feedback. I love critique because I see it has thee only way to learn. I get to hear what others see that I may not and, advice, tips and suggestions are the bedrock of my learning curve, especially in this new area of using pens and lines.
I'm loving this illustrative genre of art. I'm a bit lazy in thinking before I apply the scribbles though. I have learned about myself a lot. I'm inpatient, I get bored and demotivated easy, I take the sloppy quick road then regret it and, I lack self discipline!
This picture was interesting to do. I've learned a lot as I go. I think I'd give it 5 out of 10 so far (I may colour it yet! I'll use blendable pencils for some practice).
I've seen black illustrations in books over the years that use this line technique. They are amazing and I wonder how the heck they do them so well. I have a long way to go before I become competent and confident from a basis of wisdom of knowledge and practice!
Back to the grind stone!  :sweat:
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Reply #27 on: January 11, 2013, 07:50:18 AM
Oops! I forgot to mention those trees! Yeah, Pat & Lillian, you are absolutely right about them. I think they lean too much too. Next time I'd put a 3rd smaller one in on the left. Because I added these after the original, the background showed through the trunks :blush: ;D     so, I filled them in! That's why they are dark!
When I set my next drawing out, I'll step back and ask myself 'do I need to add anything to the overall picture that's not on the photo'. Then I can draw it in and make allowances for the cross overs!
Hey, I just thought, maybe I should put some Coconuts in the tree and on the floor?! (Oh, by the way, I did take a photo copy of the drawing before I added the trees!  :smart:  so, I can doodle till my heart's content!  :yippee: 
I may even add a flying carpet and a few Camels Lillian!  :2funny:
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Reply #28 on: January 11, 2013, 07:58:52 AM
I may even add a flying carpet and a few Camels?   8)    :)

Tony, I think I recall somewhere/sometime that Nolan showed us some help as to how/when you're not sure of those last minute decisions as to what else to add to a drawing or painting.

He drew the sketch, (I think it was a person, can't recall exactly), on a piece of clear velum and placed it over the piece.  That way, you can see what it would look like in the end.

I thought it was a good idea.  ...amazed I still have some cache in the old memory bank.   :2funny:
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Reply #29 on: January 11, 2013, 10:08:18 AM
Looks very, very nice.  You've done an excelent job.
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