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Reply #15 on: January 20, 2011, 02:12:39 PM
 :clap: Congratulations Pat! I didn't get to vote...the net has been chucking me off for days.  :( Still can't upload but I can communicate again. Just received my parcel from UK so have some new paints to try. Hope I'll be able to do your picture justice.
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Reply #16 on: January 20, 2011, 03:53:21 PM
Thanks Val, where are you located? I have not been feeling like painting lately. I'm worried about it. I WANT to paint, but worried I might loose interest. Probably has to do with being brave and just laying down the paint without feeling it has to be so critical. Then, I do the fiddling forever. That's another reason I just feel like it's so difficult.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


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Reply #17 on: January 26, 2011, 04:25:57 AM
Hi Pat, Sorry its taken so long to get back on line. I am currently in Grenada, West Indies. We'll be moving upisland shortly. Internet on some of the islands is non-existent so things will be getting quite spotty for me. But I promise whenever it is available I will jump on and keep up to date as much as I can.
Pat, I can honestly tell you  I  go through phases like this all the time. This is why I decided to take another step forward and try doing something completely different (island painting) which I thought would be a 'simple' distraction. Turns out it has become a major challenge  :2funny: At first I thought it was childish, but turned out to be quite the  opposite. It will take a while before I'm really proficent at it. Between trying a new style and a new medium it had me intimidated to the point where I almost didn't attempt it. Procrastination is the theft of life...don't give in. Take a deep breath, and just try something different for a bit, its amazing the clarity you have when you turn back to that other challenge. Come on Pat...take a walk on the wild side and let go. You'll surprise yourself!  :clap: :clap:
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Reply #18 on: January 26, 2011, 07:35:30 AM
I have gone months between paintings because I didn't feel it in me or was discouraged.  I felt like giving up and knew I had to force myself to do something different.  So, I could not have put it better than what Val said with her encouragement.  Pat, you are an amazing artist.  Never surrender, :fight: never give up! (Winston Churchill I believe)
Kelley


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Reply #19 on: January 26, 2011, 10:01:15 AM
You're right, Kelley, the story goes like this. Winston Churchill, during WWII, was asked to give a speech at a very prestigious school. He came up to the rostrum and everyone was expecting a very long speech. He simply said, "Never, never, ever, ever,ever, give up," and promptly sat down again.
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Reply #20 on: January 26, 2011, 03:20:03 PM
Val, Kelly...I have all the time in the world to paint everyday, yet, I only go for a half an hour or maybe a half hour every OTHER day. I start getting fidgety after that, so i stop while I am still very much in focus. I actually have a big fear of messing up! That's why I limit myself to such a short time. It gives me room to breath too. I do feel like I have a responsiblitly to continue to paint, yet, I don't FEEL like it. Like i said in my other post, that has alot to do I think because of so much fiddling around that it takes your interests away and it's more of a chore than being exciting seeing a painting develop anymore. I guess their's no real solution to it. You HAVE to fiddle or a painting wouldn't get done at all. Painting IS fiddling. Once i realize I'm getting frustrated, I can't leave it and am really forcing myself to leave it at a point where I can sleep on it! But, that's why I'm loosing interest in painting at all lately. Like gambling, you say to yourself, Well, I won $1000, should I try to see if i can win some more"? You have to be humble and stop.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


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Reply #21 on: January 26, 2011, 07:32:58 PM
It is more difficult to paint without a plan, without vision.  Pat, I am taking my time with the two paintings I am working on.  One I haven't worked on in over a month.  I haven't abandoned it, I am just letting it sit.  The other is on my easel waiting to dry before I put another layer on it.  I haven't spent more than 15 to 20 minutes on it and it's only once or twice per week.  This gives me a little breathing room to put something else on another easel.  I don't always get motivated to paint on the same canvas so I have at least a couple to do at a time.  This also allows me to either continue painting on a rotation basis or take a break. It is my hobby and slowly becoming my profession (it's not my main source of income, but someday...).  I hadn't posted anything here in a long while because I wasn't painting, but I will always stick around because I might learn something or encourage someone that may need it.  I've scraped muddy paint off dozens of times, but it's not an entire frustration because I know why I paint and who I paint for.  I really, really hope you allow Dennis and Nolan to walk you through problem solving.  I understand it is difficult to be patient because you want to fiddle.  I do the same, but I force myself to walk away for a while when I know touching up will only make matters worse.  I either return to the same or go to another canvas when I have a plan.
Kelley


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Reply #22 on: January 27, 2011, 05:41:52 AM
Right you are Kelley. I really wish I could get the upload working because I KNOW I do need assistance with my current one...or three! On this last one I started, the sky actually worked out quite well I thought. Then the ground looked more or less like I had planned. THEN...I wanted to add a little more colour to it and BLOTTO...big mistake. Tried lifting the colour out (green), as not the right shade (looked good on the test sheet), couldn't get it out so started to scrub a bit which toned it down, but now I have a rather "icky" looking flat field. I'm going to have a go with the old 'magic eraser' and see if I can get rid of a bit more. Going to make a T-shirt out of my painting...put the picture behind bars and it'll say "It Doesn't Pay To Fiddle'" on the back!  :2funny: Take me away......
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Reply #23 on: January 27, 2011, 01:39:42 PM
That's what makes this forum so great - thanks for all the encouraging words guys  :flowers:

I have been crazy busy getting our next course ready to go live so haven't looked left or right otherwise it wouldn't get finished, so watch your in-boxes for an email from The Paint Basket this weekend.  ;)

Pat, if you find you are fiddling too much, it is usually because you feel under pressure to create a master piece every single time. Even the old masters had heaps of paintings that they hid away and never showed anybody - they were then only discovered after they died. Not every painting is going to be a master piece unfortunately, but if you concentrate more on learning and mastering techniques, then you will find that more and more of your paintings do turn out master pieces. So my suggestion is that you decide which techniques need the most work, then paint smaller, thumbnail type paintings with only that technique in.

Eg., let's say you are battling with trees, then take an 18"x24" canvas and split it into 6 sections. In each of those sections paint in a basic sky, then choose either one tree in 3 different poses or 3 different trees and paint them into each block in the top row. Then in the bottom row repaint the scenes you had the most problems with directly underneath, this time being careful not to repeat the same mistakes. Those you didn't have problems with paint another tree in the block below. By the time you have completed the canvas you will be pretty confident with the techniques and have a few small paintings to give as Xmas gifts or frame sell at craft markets, the ones you don't like can be sanded down / scraped off and repainted.


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Reply #24 on: January 06, 2012, 04:16:47 PM
Number 1 for my vote! Ray


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Reply #25 on: January 06, 2012, 05:54:27 PM
Sorry to inform you, that was a year ago Ray.
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Reply #26 on: January 07, 2012, 09:37:05 AM
Can you believe it?  ???  Seems like it was a week ago....
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Reply #27 on: January 07, 2012, 11:58:08 AM
I know what you mean Val.  I know what you mean.
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Reply #28 on: January 07, 2012, 12:14:57 PM
I open PB, click on "Show unread posts.....", see there is "Vote for your favorite sunset", move to the top, trying to see how to vote, notice the closing date "january 17, 2011", check the date on my puter, "january 7", cannot understand why they closed it before the finish date, I guess Nolan is smoking funny stuff again, go to the end of the post and realise that I also am a year too late. Please take note that it took me 20 minutes to figure it out. NOW THAT IS OLD!!!!!! If you will excuse me now I shall go and stand in the toilet and flush. Goodbye cruel world.
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Reply #29 on: January 07, 2012, 01:23:53 PM
Well, I'm not alone and I feel sooooo much better!   :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

When I was shopping this morning, I met an ex-co worker who retired recently.  He was looking for a calendar and we got talking about what we're doing in retirement.  We got laughing when he said that most of the time he doesn't know what day it is. 

I can relate to that!  It doesn't faze me one bit. 

Thank goodness I get the notifications from Paintbasket before the classes start!    :)
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