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on: September 08, 2012, 05:23:21 PM
I received an email asking what the 'oops' was about on my practice sheet. Well, the 'oops' window was originally a dormer window, but I got the perspective and shadows all mucked up. Sooo, I decided to try one of Dennis' little 'wipe out' tricks along with my magic eraser, and voila...just another window!   :heeha:  This was originally posted back in Nov. 2011. Just a practice exercise I do sometimes to help me with values. It can be done with any simple subject in any colour.  :think:  I'm about due for another go......

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Reply #1 on: September 08, 2012, 06:24:21 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:

And they all try to tell you mistakes in watercolour can't be fixed  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 02:31:56 AM
 O0  You know Dennis, listening to all the nay sayers for all those years kept me from painting w/c. 'If you make a mistake, you can't go back. It is unfixable.'  I'm pleased to say they were all wet!   :2funny:   :clap:   :clap:  Another myth busted!   :yippee:
I have now proved it twice (not that I make a lot of mistakes   ::)  ) once here with the oops, also on lesson two, I had to erase all of the plant shadows and repaint them on the opposite sides. No one would ever know   :sweat:
Thanks Dennis, you are a wizard!   ;)
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Reply #3 on: September 09, 2012, 03:19:06 AM
I love those tonal exercises, Val.   :smitten:   :clap: :clap: :clap:

Re the magic eraser --  I've tried it and it has worked.

Did you dampen the eraser and apply it to the painting when the painting was dry?

I tried it on a wet painting and didn't like the results.  It started to lift the paper and it made it hard to get a nice even wash over the area.  I had better results when I used it when the painting was dry.

Please elaborate on your experience. 
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Reply #4 on: September 09, 2012, 04:02:31 AM
I only use it on a dry painting. Always lightly dampen the sponge (not wet). Remember it takes only the lightest touch, if I use it on very intense colours I will go over a couple of times to get the stain out. Sometimes I will wait between erasings to let the paper dry.

It will really make a mess of wet paper   :eek:

I love those tonal exercises, Val.   :smitten:   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Thank you Lillian, they really help me along. Helps to reinforce the full range of a colour in my mind..sometimes it takes a bit more bashing  :banghead: to get it to stick!   :2funny:
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Reply #5 on: September 09, 2012, 04:22:13 AM
Yes Val, those tonal studies really do help.  I also just started trying those little Notans for paintings to get a quick tonal look and it really helps to see if the composition will be interesting.  I think that before the Drawing class I felt I couldn't  draw a scene, even in a Notan.  Now, thanks to Nolan and Dennis , I am a bit more confident  :eyesclosed:


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Reply #6 on: September 09, 2012, 04:50:06 AM
 :clap: Isn't it fantastic when you find you really can do something you didn'think possible?  :yippee:
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Reply #7 on: September 09, 2012, 05:08:04 AM
Yes Val! :smart:


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Reply #8 on: September 09, 2012, 09:20:23 AM
Hi Val, great that it is possible to fix mistakes in watercolour, but I mess up a lot trying it. What is that magic eraser you are talking about? Seems to me that it is something very handy, I never heard of it. I'm sure I could use that eraser.

I really like your practice sheet, I love tonal studies and these four on one sheet looking great. Great idea, making one big painting with all kind of tonal practice paintings!!
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Reply #9 on: September 09, 2012, 10:54:28 AM
Hi Rita, it is actually a household cleaning product for removing stains from hard surfaces. I used to get them in the grocery store in the cleaning section. In North America it was called the Magic Eraser by Mr. Clean.   ;D  Sometimes find them in the dollar stores.  O0
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Reply #10 on: September 09, 2012, 05:22:02 PM
Val, is it like the Tide To Go, instant stain remover pens for clothes?


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Reply #11 on: September 10, 2012, 12:30:10 AM
Hi Val, maybe I  have this magic eraser already :2funny: .

I've found a spounge in my kitchen cupboard, Handy Clean Absorbtion block, still in plastic which says: extreemly high suction, fast cleaning of stains and dirt. Its very firm and you have to wet it and wring out, so I'll try this on a scrap watercolour and see how it works.
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Reply #12 on: September 10, 2012, 02:56:28 AM
Rita, check this out --  http://www.mrclean.ca/en_CA/mr-clean-on-tv.do

I just cut a small piece off of it, dampen it and use it to take care of the "Oops ".
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Reply #13 on: September 10, 2012, 09:48:59 AM
NO Lynn it's not. Lillian has posted a link which shows exactly what it is. Way to go Lillian!   :yippee:

See below.
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Reply #14 on: September 10, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
Thank you Val and Lillian,  :thankyou: :flowers:

I will look and see if I can buy Mr Clean here at the store. My spounge looks the same, only without the texture and it isn't white. I've cut off a small piece, so I will try how this one works, and when not I hope I'll find the right one. I always can buy them on the internet, on Ebay I saw a lot of them. Which one do you use, the original or the extra power?

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