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on: March 14, 2012, 07:59:11 AM
I used the fixative on this one too but from farther away and I could emmediately tell...it does make the values look less appealing..somehow..might be diffusing the dark edges or something odd. I do not want to use fixative anymore. But i can't afford to frame every single one either. What I did for now anyway was, i got some wax paper and hinged it onto the end of the drawing, then put it inside my sketchbook and I''ll just be careful from now on not to move it around in there.    I fiddled a very very long times on some things on this one and just gave in finally.   I used a razor knife to scrape a few minUte areas with not much luck. When you view it from the reflective side, it all looks pretttttty bad!, but mostly from the shiny graphite.
I used charcoal pencils for the darkest parts.
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Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 09:01:15 AM
Another amazing piece of art, Pat1   :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 09:39:59 AM
Really amazing, your drawing!  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:
Did you already try fixatives from different manufacturers? A friend of mine told me, that she found big differences between the brands. I use Schmincke Universal Fixative. At first it looks as if the tonal values become duller but after it has dried it looks almost the same.
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Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 10:36:38 AM
Thanks Lillian and Martina. I haven't but I have already wasted a ton of money buying different things that I will never use..like a mechanical pencil paying for shipping and now I don't really need that.
I have Grumbacher Fixative. It's hard to know before buying.  I am not going to fix my drawings anymore.
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Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 12:36:46 PM
Hi Pat,
Well I guess I will try this again. My last post did not show up. I like your beatle picture. You did a good job on it. You should be very proud of what you did. fixative does work. I use it all the time. Charcoal will look darker when you use fixative over it. You might try a number 9 pencil for the darkest part. As I said GOOD JOB!!  O0 O0
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Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 04:07:08 PM
Thanks Nina. In other words, kind of anticipate the darkening...well, come to think of it, I am so critical..i couldn't do that. I really don't think I'll use fixative again. It really did change the value somehow. I used it on two drawings so far and the same.  I have to find an old  11 x 14 inch box that contained some photo papers (can't find my old one anywhere). That should preserve the un fixed drawings pretty good if i keep it safe. Maybe even put some kind of block around the paper inside that box so their is virtually zero movement of the drawings.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


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Reply #6 on: March 14, 2012, 04:11:48 PM
Pat!  I love it..looks like it could even be an album cover!  Great job!  :clap:


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Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 05:27:02 PM
 :clap: Excellent drawing Pat.  I don't use fixative, I lay a sheet of tracing paper (or greaseproof baking paper if I don't have tracing paper) with a small piece of tape to hold it at the top. Then I can stack them if they're loose. I do the same with the ones in a pad. Nothing has smudged or shifted so far.
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Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 02:20:23 AM
 :clap: very nice
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Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 11:20:10 AM
Thanks RKY , Maryna, and Val.
That is exactly what i did today..wax paper and hinged it.
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Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 02:37:12 PM
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Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 12:47:20 PM
WOW Pat, what can I say, it's a masterpiece  :congrats: :not_worthy:


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Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 03:02:24 PM
Wow! Pat, you've done a great job of this. It's a daring project to draw 4 portraits in one go!  :clap: :clap:
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