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Reply #15 on: November 17, 2010, 11:20:40 PM
you really must add these to your gallery Kelley


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Reply #16 on: November 17, 2010, 11:29:32 PM
Dennis and Nolan, :not_worthy: I could never outdo you gentlemen, but I really appreciate the generous comments.   I'll darken the last globe as you suggested Nolan.  Thank you!  This has been valuable because I have been wanting to paint some metallic looking surfaces, but wasn't sure how to portray them such as chrome bumpers on automobiles or spoons.  I suspect it is a combination of lighting and what is being reflected back.

Wow, I love this place!  :hug: (Finally found an excuse to use that group hug smiley)
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Reply #17 on: November 18, 2010, 04:28:34 AM
 :surrender: Kelley, they are awesome!  :clap: I can't seem to get anywhere with the 'all' shiny one. I'll study yours a bit and have another go. Well done!  :clap:
Cheers, Val

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Reply #18 on: November 18, 2010, 07:37:41 AM
Thank you Val.  I wasn't expecting such accolades over Christmas globes.  The most reflective globe was the most difficult I think because it has mirror effect and you have to consider what it is reflecting back and how the lighting is hitting it and where the light is reflecting off of it (causing more light) as well.  My camera isn't showing the lighting on the drawings the way my eye is so it looks different "in person" than it does in pictures a little.  I'll have to play with the settings a bit.  Anyway, I added one more shot here with the left side of the globe darkened some.
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Reply #19 on: November 18, 2010, 09:21:18 AM
Wow!...Just keeps getting betterer and better!!  :2funny: I'll get back to the globes, just finished (sort of) my painting of a laughing gull. My bet is he was laughing at me!  :2funny: Still have a couple of problem areas to work on but starting to see how the w/c paints work....they're tricky!  :sneaky:
Cheers, Val

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Reply #20 on: November 18, 2010, 01:25:05 PM
great job Kelley, the changes make a big difference.

Here is my version of the dull ball



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Reply #21 on: November 18, 2010, 06:30:51 PM
 :heeha: Wooweee!  :clap: Very precise and smooth.  I can see where the reflected light on the bottom right is distinct.  I placed a dark line to differentiate "space" and the object, but I see that it wasn't necessary .. or at least shouldn't have been as dark because the darkened area did that for you.  I added three shadows indicating three separate light sources, but it wasn't necessary for the effect and really didn't do much for the drawing. I need to pay closer attention to your lessons. :whistle: of removing things that aren't necessary.  Great job Nolan. 
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Reply #22 on: November 19, 2010, 01:49:33 AM
actually it was very observant of you to realise that there were in fact 3 light sources as multiple light sources can really mess around with what you "expect" to see sometimes. :clap:


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Reply #23 on: November 19, 2010, 03:39:10 AM
 :surrender: wow...and all I wanted to do was draw some balls!!  :2funny: All very helpful information, but I think I may be bordering on overload. :D You guys amaze me!!  :clap: I'm not giving up...just starting over! I promise to post the next batch.
Cheers, Val

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Reply #24 on: November 19, 2010, 07:52:50 AM
I hope this didn't discourage you Val, but rather encouraged you more.  You are remarkable with the pencil and brush and hope that you aspire to improve not because this is competition but because you are driven by inspiration and coaching.  Hope this makes sense. :-\   You are amazing and I just want to make sure you don't get discouraged or overwhelmed by other people's work.  For example, I could never do as well as Dennis or Nolan, but I am going to keep trying.  That is why their lessons are so valuable to me - they are so willing to teach.  My apologies if I'm babbling or out of place.  Just hope you know I always look forward to seeing your work.
Kelley


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Reply #25 on: November 19, 2010, 10:11:21 AM
Kelley, I just want to reword what you just said. In the Bible there is a piece that says, and I paraphrase:
 " student is not above the teacher but the student can be as good as the teacher"

What it means is that the teacher can only teach you what he/she actually knows. Lots of people teach but only have limited knowledge - so the student can only learn up to that level while with that particular teacher. If that student leaves and goes to a teacher that is of a higher level then - guess what? - that student will learn up that teacher's level  ....... and so on. Get the drift?

You CAN eventually be as good as us - there is absolutely nothing stopping you from getting there. Another thing - there ARE others better than us.  :clap: :clap: and we still learn from them  :clap: :clap: Why? To be able to teach YOU, and others, better.   That what's life in the Arts is all  about.

In a few weeks time I'll be attending a 3-day workshop in Auckland by the world reknown Australian watercolourist  Joseph Zbukvic.

Do you see how this fits is what I have just been telling you. there are artists better than us.

To all other artists reading this: ALWAYS aspire to be the best you can be. When you start becoming comfortable - shift the goal posts - and keep on doing this. Everyone has the potential to be a Master in his/her field of the Arts. The answer is to find the best teacher and then persevere - there is not such thing a a free meal  :heeha:

Kelley, here are the words you said that will bring you, and anyone else, success:
"....but I am going to keep trying."

Go for it!
You are what you THINK about - Napoleon Hill


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Reply #26 on: November 19, 2010, 11:55:34 AM
Hello All...Just popped in for a break. Wow, lots going on. First please let me set the record straight, I don't feel intimidated, or discouraged by all of your works...rather inspired, and yes probably driven to improve and achieve a higher level.   :clap: I am just amazed when I look at artworks knowing that it was nothing more than a blank canvas or paper, and seeing what has been created by someone's hand. My only hope is perhaps not greatness...but having the ability to create something of equal quality...and with the help of people and friends like you lot...I think I stand a fighting chance! But be forewarned...is going to be one heck of a bumpy ride, so be prepared to push when necessary  :knuppel2: and I hope we'll all have one jolly good time in the process!  :2funny:  :clap:  :hug:  :clap:  ::)
Cheers, Val

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Reply #27 on: November 19, 2010, 01:01:19 PM
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Reply #28 on: November 19, 2010, 01:22:18 PM
 8) You are so cool Nolan.  Glad you paraphrased Scripture to back up what I was attempting to say.  So amen to that.

Val, :knuppel2: Where are those globes?  ;)
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Reply #29 on: November 19, 2010, 01:38:13 PM
Kelley, that was for artists in general, including ourselves.
There a a lot of people that are not actually on the forum but hover in the background - I do that with other forums as well :whistle: Just take a look at the amount of views to the number actually on the forum. They are also there looking for information to help them in their quest for excellence. I don't mind that at all.

My ultimate goal is to help struggling artists gain experience and confidence in their work to such an extent that they become the accomplished artist they never thought they would ever be.

Here is something I received in an email this morning - backs up what I have been saying.

In Montana, where I'm from, there's this saying:
"The time you want the map ... is before you enter the woods."
The lesson is basic:
Before you embark on any journey, know in advance how to get where you want to go.
Otherwise, you start doing something and then end up all lost and confused.

Have a good day and  ....... Happy Painting!
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