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on: November 05, 2017, 05:18:52 AM
Just curious if anyone has crossed over from oil to watercolor and is it hard?
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


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Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 04:14:44 PM
Hi Pat,
I went from oil to acrylic and can go back and forth with relative ease.  But when I think about water color I really don't think I can switch because I like thicker paint layers and the blending and overlapping of colors.  Maybe the real reason is that I don't have a steady hand and patience to work carefully with water colors.


If you want to try water colors, using water color pencils would be a good start.  I've tried that and found it relaxing and having more control over what happens with a damp brush applied to the colored lines. ~Liz


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Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 04:35:38 AM
I did.  It was really not as difficult as I had anticipated. 

I first started WC because I was going on a trip with it was not suited to bringing oils with me, and under pressure from a friend who wanted to paint with me but was only interested in WC.

I started with the beginner classes with Dennis.  After just a few hours I was hooked. 

Personnally, I don't care much for WC pencils, except for an accent or detail at the end.

Now I do WC on trips or when I have only little time, and oil if I have 2-3h available in oil setting.  Typically I have one of each on the go.
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Reply #3 on: November 07, 2017, 07:48:39 AM
The more I think about it, the more I have fear...and maybe best just to stick to what i know best already and keep trying to improve on that one..oil.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


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Reply #4 on: November 07, 2017, 03:11:58 PM
ANNIE, unless you especially like to do detailed drawings, you probably wouldn't like water color pencils.  Reason is because the wet brush usually is applied to where there are pencil marks.  That's how I did it anyway.


PAT, you're right, if we don't want to be adventurous we're better off staying within our comfort level and try to enjoy the medium we're used to. ~Liz


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Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 07:34:12 AM
W/C pencils can be used in a few ways. As stated, they can be used by drawing first and adding water; or you can take the colour off the pencil with a wet/damp brush; or you can wet the paper and used either method of application on the damp paper. I have heard of one fellow shaving the colour from the pencil onto wet paper as well. Lots of leeway there.

I used to paint oils many years ago, I had a few issues when starting w/c. One was learning water control, the other was that even though it had been many years since using oil, I had it ingrained in painting dark to light. It took me a while to get over that and learn to reserve the whites and go from light to dark. Once I was more comfortable with that, it was easy! Right Dennis?!  :2funny:
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Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 11:18:06 AM
I'm doing the opposite - been a watercolor artist from the beginning and have started taking some of Nolan's oil painting classes, which I love - but dang, for me it's a way more difficult medium than watercolor. One of these days I hope to try an oil of my own, vs a class...but not quite there yet.
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Reply #7 on: November 09, 2017, 07:56:01 AM
I did it, I learned to paint here on PB and loved oils for the ability to blend them so well in my realistic style.
I tried watercolors several times and didn't "Get it" at all. Then when we were going on a long trip to Europe I realized I couldn't take my oils etc. with me and they would take to long to dry so I did some WC classes here, did some practice and launched myself on our trip.
I have to say that I like it now. I don't do WC exclusively but we travel almost continuously and WC is a great way to do studies for later paintings in oils, and that's my intent. We usually settle down for 3 or 4 months in the winter and that's when my oils come out and stay out until it's time to move on in the spring.
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Reply #8 on: November 09, 2017, 08:44:17 AM
Thanks for the flashback, Brian.  We have loved watching you progress over the past few years. 

Now we delight in your travelog.  Looking forward to seeing how you portray Hawaii.

aloha

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Reply #9 on: November 09, 2017, 07:03:11 PM
Liz,
Actually I am very .. hum... left brain.  So it was a big paradigm shift for me to even consider WC.  I could not rap my head around not being able to control the flow of water where I wanted.  With oil, the paint stays where you put it.

So not liking WC pencils was not about control.  It was just that it did not look good to me.

Me trying WC was more about being dare to it, by my friend but also after reflecting on some comments Dennis make during lesson and on the Forum.

Now I truly love both, but under different situation.

So bottom line, try everything and then decide what you like best.  Today it may be WC and next month Oil, or vice versa....
Cheers, Annie
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Reply #10 on: November 09, 2017, 09:37:21 PM
Annie,
Thanks for your comments.  I was watching Dennis doing pen and ink washes with the giraffe lesson.  I liked it a lot and maybe that would be a good introduction to using water color paint.  ~Liz


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Reply #11 on: November 09, 2017, 10:41:42 PM
I babysat my little 3-year old neighbor yesterday and my giraffe line and wash from Dennis' class was beautifully framed on his wall.   The parents knew it was a lesson and my first line and wash, but they loved it.  The Mom had spent time in Africa so it had real meaning for her.  Great - I had no storage space so now I can still see it whenever I want.

WIN - WIN

Liz, I was terrified of line and wash - now I love it.

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Reply #12 on: November 10, 2017, 01:41:48 PM
Dennis first series on WC are starting at the beginning and build up on knowledge and skill.

I am very happy I done the first 20 or so in order.

I recall Sharon also recommended it and to do them all... well that will take about 10 years at the rate I paint 😅
Cheers, Annie
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Reply #13 on: November 10, 2017, 02:17:08 PM
Annie, if you can do that you have me beat! I'm just over 7 years here.... and I'm nowhere near doing them all. I've watched most of them now, but have not painted half! Maybe a quarter?  :whistle:
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Reply #14 on: November 10, 2017, 05:15:39 PM
 :) Enjoyed reading about your enthusiastic comments on painting with water color- Brian, Annie, Val, and Mea! 
 
MaryAnne, That was nice hearing that you babysat your little neighbor and visited your giraffe art painting!


Annie, I visited your gallery and sure enough you're a prolific artist producing many beautiful pieces of art!  Good for you!  I spend a good part of my time thinking about painting  ::)  and doing too many other things that postpone my art work for another day. 


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