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Reply #15 on: July 24, 2017, 12:14:04 AM
Jess,

You are right to want to make this chart useful to you later by getting the right tones from the pencils.

I have tried a few different pencil brands and found TOMBOW MONO (for high precession drafting) to be the best with the most consistent tones. (Nolan uses these, too).  You can get them on AMAZON.  A 12-pencil set (4H to 6B) is less than $15  with PRIME shipping.

Your charts look good.

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Reply #16 on: July 24, 2017, 01:20:27 AM
Hi, Jess.

Your chart looks great!  Mea is right about wanting to make sure your chart is useful.  On the part you erased, can you replicate the color accurately on another sheet of paper with that pencil?  if so, then it should be fine.

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Reply #17 on: July 24, 2017, 03:42:01 AM
Jess, you are doing well and your tonal chart will come in handy for sure. Having said that, when drawing, I always struggled with tonal changes for I seemed to be too timid and never wanted to put too much pressure on the pencils but what really helped me tremendously and which I tell everyone, is when Val suggested that I use a darker pencil to achieve the desired tonal change. Such an easy solution but one doesn't always think of that when you are in a situation. However, it was such a valuable lesson and one which I will never forget for it has stood me in good stead ever since and my hope is that if ever you are in that situation, think about Val's suggestion. 


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Reply #18 on: July 24, 2017, 06:13:51 AM
Hi Jess, the top chart looks pretty good. The two lower charts don't show the gradation of color as well. It might be the pencils. Bring them over and we can test them together. I agree with Mea that the Tombows are great pencils. You and I talked about them a bit. You can test my Tombows  against yours and see what feels best for you 😃
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Reply #19 on: July 24, 2017, 02:12:00 PM
your second erased landscape looks great - big improvement

The first two lines of tonal chart are good but the last one is not gradual enough.

I know it is a lot of work but don't be afraid to do several tonal charts until you are able to do it perfectly. The tonal chart teaches you control over your pencils. You learn to switch pencils for different tonal values as well as press harder and softer. It also trains your eye to spot tonal value changes. These abilities is honestly 90% of pencil drawing.

If you can draw a perfect tonal chart every time then you will be able to draw almost anything perfectly going forward.


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Reply #20 on: July 24, 2017, 08:13:27 PM
Thank you all for the helpful suggestions!
I am going to do like Nolan suggested and do another tonal chart... or ten.   ???

Kathy - I'd like to try out the tombow pencils and compare them to what I use.  I have a set of faber-castell pencils.
Jess


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Reply #21 on: July 24, 2017, 09:37:38 PM
Ok.. here is another try.  I think it turned out a bit better!!  Thoughts?  Should i do another?

Jess


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Reply #22 on: July 24, 2017, 10:37:17 PM
Good, Jess.  Much smoother.

I would wait until you have another set of pencils to try.

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Reply #23 on: July 25, 2017, 02:04:05 AM
Well done Jess! All the values are there, try it without the blocks, just the main outline. All it needs is a bit more smoothing out and you're there!  :cheering: :cheering: :cheering:
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Reply #24 on: July 25, 2017, 03:15:56 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Much better Jess.


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Reply #25 on: July 25, 2017, 12:39:00 PM
keep going Jess until you master the transition from one pencil to the next without creating a line to indicate the change, you nearly there.
 I have Faber Castel Graphite pencils  (I started with them) but I dont find them as smooth as staedtler or some of the other brands. I have not tried Tombows but I think they are also smoother to work with.
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Reply #26 on: July 25, 2017, 08:03:34 PM
I did notice the third line of the tonal chart had some blockiness (is that a word?) to it,but was so excited I had the shading down that I didn't want to mess with it!!

Thank you all for the critique!  If I didn't have that I probably would have just moved on.  I will try again!  Third times the charm!!!
Jess


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Reply #27 on: July 25, 2017, 10:04:59 PM
As a former English teacher, I approve of the term "blockiness."  I like it - it says what it means.

Jess, be proud of the work you are doing. Keep at it.

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Reply #28 on: July 31, 2017, 12:57:39 PM
what a difference - fantastic :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:


 

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