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fotograffiti

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on: March 16, 2017, 09:26:28 AM
I have never used it and recently bought it. Or rather, a friend bought it for me and they told her the bottle I wanted was not for sale so they suggested another one.
Now this one is like a glue pen.
I tried applying it directly to the paper which was not such a succes.
Later when I tried removing the rubber, it took some of the paper with it.
I had to throw away what I made (a test, nothing more) but I would like to know what to do to avoid this
thanks


Steve Weatherwax

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Reply #1 on: March 16, 2017, 09:35:16 AM
Have you tried it on different paper? Lower quality papers can tear when removing masking fluid or when lifting pigment. Winsor & Newton makes a good quality masking fluid. Is the fluid completely liquid? Or has it begun to curdle? How are you applying it? It should go on easily.
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Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 10:10:26 AM
I have used Winsor & Newton, and Daler Rowney with no serious issues. They both come in bottles. I have never seen one in a pen. Make certain the paper is 100% dry before applying, and the paper is 100% dry before removing the masking.

You do need a good quality and weight of paper. I use Arches 140# (300gsm) CP.
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Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 02:17:22 PM
this is the one

https://www.harolds.nl/images/producten/basis/prod__1377068911_Molotow-GraFX-refill-30ml2.jpg

I think I better squeeze some in a container and apply with a brush

Val "Make certain the paper is 100% dry before applying, and the paper is 100% dry before removing the masking."

I think neither was :blush:



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Reply #4 on: March 16, 2017, 02:57:29 PM
AHA!!!  :heeha:      That was most likely the problem, if the paper is even slightly damp when you apply the fluid, it actually sinks into the fibers of the paper. Likewise if you try removing the masking before the paper is 100% dry, the surface of the paper is actually a bit soft.... end result in either case .... the paper comes with it!  :eek:
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Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 05:48:58 AM
Hi. Masking fluid sticks if you dry your painting with a hairdryer or a heat gun. Also saw a recent youtube product report on watercolour paper quality. The artist said Molotow brand is particularly bad for sticking on student quality paper. I've had trouble with a Molotow pen too...but I didn't know not to apply heat AND I put it on damp paper. LOL. Since then I've been more careful where and how I use the pen and had no trouble.


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Reply #6 on: March 28, 2017, 11:25:55 AM
I saw a tutorial on You Tube where it says not to use a hairdryer to speed up drying unless using the cold setting.


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Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 04:03:05 PM
My experience is that the masking fluid works well on quality paper, but cannot be allowed to stay on for an extended period of time. I use it rather extensively, but remove it within a day of laying it down. I have had good luck removing it using medical elastic gauze. The gauze is slightly sticky which helps in removing the masking fluid.   :)


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Reply #8 on: March 29, 2017, 05:29:22 AM
That's right Fotografiti.... DON'T use heat  on masking fluid.


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Reply #9 on: April 05, 2017, 03:39:35 AM
I think I'm going to chuck out my Molotow Masking Pen.  The tip/wick has gone globby. I trimmed it with scissors but there is no improvement, and all I can get out of it is series of dots, rather than the thin line I was aiming for... Any suggestions anyone?


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Reply #10 on: April 05, 2017, 04:21:26 AM
Ruling/drafting pens make wonderful straight lines. The best part is you can adjust the thickness of the line. Nib pens will also make good lines. You can try toothpicks, credit cards. Or, try  a rigger if you don't mind potentially ruining a brush. Experiment. :)
« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 04:23:10 AM by Steve Weatherwax »
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Reply #11 on: April 24, 2017, 06:29:30 AM
Thanks Steve... Only just found your reply, but it's timely because I've bought a bottle of masking fluid and this time I'm going to experiment with it before I ruin another of my masterpieces.


 

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