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Limited Palette
« on: February 13, 2017, 06:57:51 AM »
Hi everyone,
I haven't painted anything new in probably a year now. I was posting all my old ones on facebook recently and got great comments, so it got me going.
I might try one.   My paints have always been the warm/cool version of each primary (blue, reds and the two yellows) including the Raw Umber
Wondering if any of you use just 3 primaries instead.     I know great paintings have been done with just the 3 alone.     Maybe i don't really realize that as simples as it may seem, the current palette I use IS causing frustration to me.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2017, 04:06:05 PM »
Hi Pat,  I try to keep my palette as small as I can for each painting. Always three primaries, colours varied to suit the scene. I usually end up adding one or two other colours if I can't get a colour right with the mix.

Simple is good.  O0
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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2017, 07:24:26 PM »
I taught for years with only the following colours: Alizarin Crimson, Ultramarine Blue, Yellow Ochre and Raw Umber plus Titanium White. Surprising just what you can do with these.
These really teach you how to mix colors  :heeha:

The fewer colors you can do with the better. You learn to mix, and the less confused you will be.
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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2017, 09:22:56 AM »
Hi Val and Hi Dennis,
I have mainly the warm/cool versions of each color.  I can handle them, if i stop to think about what I'm doing.
What i know now is that you will very very rarely even need a color chroma that is so bright that'll you'll need to match a cool with a cool or warm with a warm.     
Everything, just about..........has some dulled down chroma.   
So, i CAN mix a warm with a cool (ex: cad. red + ultramarine= slightttly dulled purple).   It's will be all i will ever need, unless i rarely needed that extra kick to mix a alizarin + ultra instead.
Will try it out.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2017, 02:47:16 PM »
 :gl2:       :clap: :clap: :clap:
Cheers, Val

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2017, 05:55:04 PM »
Hi everyone,
I haven't painted anything new in probably a year now. I was posting all my old ones on facebook recently and got great comments, so it got me going.
I might try one.   My paints have always been the warm/cool version of each primary (blue, reds and the two yellows) including the Raw Umber
Wondering if any of you use just 3 primaries instead.     I know great paintings have been done with just the 3 alone.     Maybe i don't really realize that as simples as it may seem, the current palette I use IS causing frustration to me.

Have you tried using a split palette?

Or utilizing the complementary pair, blue and orange?  The Little Peasant by Amadeo Modigliani utilizes Green-Blue and well as Violet-Blue and Red-Orange and a Yellow-Orange.

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2017, 04:18:50 PM »
Yes Stoney, that is pretty much what I've been using all along the past few years. I can manage with it, but realizing i can just as easily arrive at same color using the 3 primaries only.   Perhaps less to be thinking about.........which is good!
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2017, 01:38:15 PM »
Cad Red, Cad Yellow and Ultramarine Blue plus white is all I have unless I'm painting a landscape then I get lazy and dig out several greens from a box of old paints I keep around for that.
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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2017, 02:59:26 PM »
Started just the simple background blend, and already got out my Cerulean and...the Ultra. I just have alot of paint that i shouldn't ignore it, and use it instead.
Warm/cools        is almost as easy as just 3 primaries.   Just have to think about it first.   
Instead of adding Yellow to the Ultra to head towards Cerulean.     I just get out the Cerulean. Almost as easy.
But certainly wouldn't start using other colors than those.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2017, 12:37:41 AM »
I like Dennis' idea of using just a few colors.  3 colors and white will produce great mixes.  I recently tried Burnt Sienna, Yellow Ochre, and Ultramarine Blue with White and they worked out nicely. ~Liz

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2017, 10:10:27 AM »
Liz, yes, i like the idea of simplicity too. But, i already have a warm/cool or each primary, then the 3 complentaries to tone them down. Been doing that for years, so i might as well not waste what i have.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2017, 05:50:12 PM »
 :) How's this, Pat?  One's limited palette could be any number of tube paints one has available.  Some people like more tubes of paint to work with.  They may think they won't have to do much mixing, but in actuality sometimes there might be less color harmony in their composition.  One big reason is that different colors of the same hue have different color biases so they may not go together too well.  My preference is like yours- the 6 colors plus white. ~Liz

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2017, 04:25:29 PM »
Yes liz, i remember that too about the harmony. Main thing i do when it comes to pre mixing is that i can grab the closest tube color (alizarin or c.red for example), knowing I'm emmediately closer that way from the start.
I always pre-mix some of the majority colors in the scene anyway. Then, just improvise as i go from there.
One thing I've always neglected alot is to mix those in between colors i.e.  mixing some c.red with the alizarin
or  cerulean with the ultramarine.   I lean too much towards one or the others. Will try to start thinking more about doing that.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.

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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2017, 06:09:56 PM »
The biggest step I did forward was when I did a few paintings with the primary 3 colours and Ti white.  I leaned more about colour composition then any other way.
Cheers, Annie
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Re: Limited Palette
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2017, 11:11:30 PM »
Hi Pat, I rarely pre-mix, but if I do I will have laid out basic tube colors on the palette, too.  Then I mix them into my pre-mixes! Woo Hoo, way to go! :2funny: ~Liz

 

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