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Reply #15 on: September 21, 2016, 06:20:48 PM
A short quick reply:
Pure watercolour uses the white of the paper to act for the tonal ranges. More pigment less of the paper shines through - that is the magic of watercolour.

Gouache, on the other hand, even though it is water based, is not pure watercolour paint because opaque white has been added to it - you can even add a very light colour on top of a dark colour, which you cannot do with pure watercolour painting. That's why serious watercolour competitions disallow gouache, except for only touch ups such as  highlights etc. The moment you actually start painting or mixing gouache into the picture, then it becomes a mixed media.

As a matter of interest: It does not matter whether the medium is watercolour, oils, acrylic, pastels, etc, they all use the same pigment. It is just the binding medium that changes. It is the binder that designates which medium it falls into.

Watercolour pencils are pretty much pan watercolours inside a stick, as the binder is water soluble. They are just not convenient for large washes. Best used for small sections in a large painting.
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Reply #16 on: September 21, 2016, 08:00:57 PM
Dennis,

I am so new to art that I honestly don't understand the whole "binder"  part.   Can you please give a couple of examples that will help me understand this statement:

It does not matter whether the medium is watercolour, oils, acrylic, pastels, etc, they all use the same pigment. It is just the binding medium that changes. It is the binder that designates which medium it falls into.

Mahalo.  I value your input on this important question.

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Reply #17 on: September 22, 2016, 02:41:05 AM
for me even painting the underpainting in acrylic, then painting over that in oil is not mixed media. The acrylic was simply there to cover the white of the canvas, which is after all also covered in acrylic. The actual painting work that created the part we call the artwork is oil, so it is an oil painting.

To be a mixed media painting you need vast amounts of the "important" parts of the artwork to be in more than one medium, like we did in the mixed media course. There we used acrylic paint exclusively, but also large amounts of other items. Those items were integral to the final outcome of the artwork so "counted" as part of the media used to create the artwork. That made those artworks mixed media.

Painting a watercolour painting and then adding a few dots of acrylic / watercolour pencil or gouache on top for highlights is not a mixed media artwork. It is a watercolour.

So for me the "meat and potatoes" of the artwork needs to be in two or more media to qualify as a mixed media artwork


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Reply #18 on: September 22, 2016, 06:28:00 AM
Thanks, Nolan.  I totally agree with you.  You have explained in simple terms that make sense.

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Reply #19 on: September 22, 2016, 09:32:33 AM
 :eyesclosed:          :surrender:          :2funny:
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Reply #20 on: September 24, 2016, 03:43:42 AM
 >:D   Have to show you this one..... do love to stir the pot a bit more!  :angel:

Watercolour Graphite!!! (3rd item down)
 
http://www.lawrence.co.uk/shop/Graphite-Putty.html?utm_source=Sentori&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=September+16

I think this would be really fun to muck about with!
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Reply #21 on: September 24, 2016, 05:51:03 AM
Val, give me a ladle and I'll help you stir! :)

I'm attaching a real quick, primitive tonal study I just did using Faber Castell graphite aquarelle pencils...2B and 8B.

I've had these for a while and this was a great time to pull them out and try them. From what I can tell they seem to act a lot like watercolors...just no color. I drew the image and then went over it with a brush dipped in water. I think I would have had better control if I made a puddle and adjusted the tone by adding more or less water.

So, vis-a-vis the challenges, would this go in the graphite or painting category?


 
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Reply #22 on: September 24, 2016, 06:47:23 AM
Till now I did not really know what to add to this thread, I find Nolans definition of mixed media so logical.
Steve, your w/c grphite pencils sound exiting. :clap:
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Reply #23 on: September 24, 2016, 08:05:23 AM
 :heeha: Steve and Val, That looks like a fun medium. I really like the look of mono chrome. The graphite looks like it could be a drawing or a painting depending on how you apply it.  O0
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Reply #24 on: September 24, 2016, 09:03:37 AM
Just drawing with it makes a picture very similar to regular graphite pencils, but I think using it like watercolor paint would make a very beautiful graphite painting. I don't believe the pencils come in a tone less  than HB, but that could be duplicated by adding more water.
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Reply #25 on: September 24, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Steve,

I love this look - simplicity.  Since the specialness of this painting is the use of the water and brush, my thought is that it is a painting.  Hope Val agrees.

I have tried washing drawings with just water over the graphite pencils I always use, but the "AQUARELLE" seems to be a step up.  I will look for some. Where did you get yours?

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Reply #26 on: September 24, 2016, 12:17:00 PM
Was so excited about trying the water-soluable graphite so went to Amazon to order:

1 of: Artgraf Water Soluble Graphite Pencil 2 Pk   $6.37

1 of: ArtGraf Water-Soluble Graphite Tin  $13.73

1 of: ArtGraf Water-Soluble Graphite Sticks 2pk    $8.47

1 of: Derwent Watersoluble Sketching Pencils, Metal Tin, 6 Count (0700837)    $13.10

Prices are USD - Shipping through Amazon prime so no charge, I hope.

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Reply #27 on: September 24, 2016, 01:14:17 PM
Mea, I got these at Dick Blick. Set of five includes a watercolor brush. Just over $10. Amazon has these also for about a buck more.
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Reply #28 on: September 24, 2016, 02:13:25 PM
 :eek:   Uh-oh.... I've done it to myself haven't I?   :doh:    When will I ever learn?   :banghead:    :stress:     :2funny:

Ok Steve, I will add "Watercolour / Water Soluble Graphite" to the Painting Challenge. It will be considered as a single painting medium in its own right in the challenge.

    :eyesclosed:    I know, I've just opened Pandora's Box!  :faint:   
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Reply #29 on: September 25, 2016, 04:09:00 PM
Val, it used to be so simple.  Now I am getting confusier 😆 (is this a word?  I sort of like it) by the minute. :banghead: :crazy2: :tickedoff:
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