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lynn p.

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on: September 06, 2016, 06:14:10 PM
Below is a wooden panel I  was asked to paint for my church to be inset into a larger box for food donations.


As you can see I AM NOT A SIGN PAINTER!  Thus, I did my best to letter on the words on a gessoed panel that is painted in acrylic.  Because I knew that it would be hard to hand paint the letters with a brush, I first outlined them in india ink using the Faber Castell artist pen which says it is permanent, lightfast, waterproof india ink, and then painted over the ink in acrylic.


Well, when I thought about varnishing, I though I should test some of the dried ink atop the acrylic and it washed off!


I have several questions:  I now read that most india inks have shellac in them and are incompatible with acrylic.  Does that mean I shouldn't have used ink in this way?  Is it non archival?  Will it just peel off?  The good news is that I painted over the ink with no bleed or problem.


Importantly, how can I varnish the piece without smearing?  Is there a spray that is safe to use and will seal the ink?
Any help would be so appreciated!!!
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 06:21:56 PM by lynn p. »


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Reply #1 on: September 06, 2016, 06:26:34 PM
Lynn,

What a beautiful sign.  Hope someone has the answer for you.  That's way out of my field of expertise.

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Reply #2 on: September 08, 2016, 03:28:54 AM
no idea to be honest. I would try to get rid of the ink and replace it with acrylic paint then I know I can varnish it


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Reply #3 on: September 08, 2016, 06:23:05 PM
Thanks so much for responding Mea and Nolan.  Nolan, I would love to do that but I think it will be a disastrous mess.  I need to remember not to mix these two again.  I called a local art store and was lucky enough to find an artist that used ink and acrylic together before.  She said to buy an acrylic spray that is used as an "isolation layer" and then either that can act as the final coat or I can try to varnish after testing the sprayed layer out on another piece of wood. If I spray lightly several times, she says that if fixes the ink.   Going to buy that surf and see if it works.


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Reply #4 on: September 08, 2016, 07:51:15 PM
http://www.tripier.com/how-to-coat-your-art-with-resin/     Perhaps on another project you could use a resin to protect it.
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Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 05:17:16 AM
 :eek: What a heartbreaking situation. Hope the recommended solution works for you.
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Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 12:07:45 AM
Another suggestion: There are acrylic inks available in various colours are are commonly used in airbrushing work. Buy a black ink and then go over all the places where the Indian Ink is showing. You should then be able to varnish over that with no problem.
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lynn p.

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Reply #7 on: September 28, 2016, 06:07:58 PM
Thanks Dennis.  That was my backup plan and I bought some acrylic ink.  Luckily Krylon sells a spray that works on everything to isolate it including acrylic, ink and watercolor.  I sprayed several coats and I didn't need to apply varnish with a brush because it gave a nice, even, satin finish.  My panel is now mounted in the box and being used in church.  What a scare!  Thanks to all for your comments and help.


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Reply #8 on: September 28, 2016, 09:43:55 PM
What an interesting Theme! Lynn, those letters look as if they are printed!  Did you draw this with indian Ink? This looks so well done. Congrats. :clap:
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Reply #9 on: October 24, 2016, 06:29:17 AM
Yes Gita but I drew them, corrected a bunch, and then transferred to the board for a guide😘


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Reply #10 on: November 02, 2016, 11:23:03 AM
Lynn,
 thank you for posting.  I'm looking at doing some similar type projects....Your experience has provided me with an answer for a question  I did not even know I needed to ask! it was a question I DID need to ask!!
thank you again, and very very nice job!!
Brian
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