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Title: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BarryC on January 30, 2016, 11:53:02 AM
First CP drawing.

Faber-Castell Polychromos. 140# watercolor paper.

This was an exercise on mixing and layering the colors.

I started this on different papers and found the tooth of the paper is even more important than graphite.

This took a LONG time, in comprision to graphite.


Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: KathyKuz on January 30, 2016, 11:57:52 AM
Barry;  You did a beautiful job on this still life.  I have used a lot of scrap paper to decide what color for shadows and highlights. Nice work.
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 30, 2016, 12:23:36 PM
Barry,

Wow, definitely shows you put the time into this piece.

Those corks are amazingly real.

Great symmetry on the wine glass, but the right bottle looks like it had too much to drink.

The grapes on the left are fantastic - a bit more contrast between the individual ones might make them pop more..

Great reflections on the bottles, but I am not sure what those square-ish reflections are on the wine glass.

Great job overall.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BeaSue on January 30, 2016, 12:54:23 PM
Way to go, Barry!  :yippee:  I know--CP takes forever, doesn't it?

I'm discovering that laying down the color in one direction, and then the other (perpendicular) direction tends to fill in the tooth of the paper, and then burnishing with OMS (odorless mineral spirits) helps to take away the little white spots that still show up. One of the books I'm studying says that the nice thing about using OMS for burnishing is that it still leaves some tooth in the paper so you can add more color on top, after it dries, something that is difficult to do when you have flattened the paper with a colorless blender.
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Steve Weatherwax on January 30, 2016, 02:48:34 PM
Nice job, Barry!

Your drawing is making me thirsty.

Steve W
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BarryC on January 30, 2016, 03:01:50 PM
Thanks for the replys.

Mea, In regards to the shape of the right hand bottle, my only defense is the left hand bottle ( its empty).

Susan, I do use OMS to blend, but I still may not be putting on enough layers. I loved your marbles!!

I start with a underpainting, then lay on the primary color and any blending color, and then usually some other color, then burnish with OMS. Next i adjust colors with another layer and may use either OMS again or a light colored pencil to burnish. As you can see, I still have some tooth showing throug on the bottles and wine glass (did not do all that for the back ground). So either there is not enough layers or my paper's tooth is too deep.

Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BeaSue on January 30, 2016, 03:31:25 PM
Thanks for the replys.

Mea, In regards to the shape of the right hand bottle, my only defense is the left hand bottle ( its empty).

Susan, I do use OMS to blend, but I still may not be putting on enough layers. I loved your marbles!!

I start with a underpainting, then lay on the primary color and any blending color, and then usually some other color, then burnish with OMS. Next i adjust colors with another layer and may use either OMS again or a light colored pencil to burnish. As you can see, I still have some tooth showing throug on the bottles and wine glass (did not do all that for the back ground). So either there is not enough layers or my paper's tooth is too deep.

And THAT is why it takes such a long time, right???
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Danielle123 on January 30, 2016, 03:38:28 PM
Lovely painting Barry, nice transparency   :clap: :clap: :clap:  i did my first one on WC paper ( no more). 
  Tell me about it it does takes a while to do a pencil coloured painting.  I just finished one (woodpecker) and I think it took at least  20 hours.  I will post it tomorrow.
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 30, 2016, 04:59:57 PM
I get it, Barry.  That would be my excuse, too.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: nolan on January 31, 2016, 01:27:36 PM
great job Barry :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
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Post by: JayJ on February 01, 2016, 01:40:30 PM
Lovely Barry!you are right a few more layers and it will look stunning!
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Post by: jillh on February 01, 2016, 05:11:58 PM
Good job Barry!
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Post by: Val on February 02, 2016, 12:45:38 PM
Great job Barry!  O0 I've had a 'grape' painting sitting on my easel for a few months....  :whistle: I guess I really should get moving on it. I like the colouring of your grapes....so perhaps I'll borrow that to start!  ;)    ;D
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Annie. on February 02, 2016, 05:31:25 PM
Great still life!  Love the window refection in the wine glass. 

Hard to beleive this is your first CP.  Too bad the bottle is already empty.
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BarryC on February 03, 2016, 05:58:52 AM
Thanks everyone!

I just received a book about CP drawing, and it appears that I'm using the wrong paper. Ive been using a tooth that is too rough.  I now need to give it another go with the correct paper. I loved Susan's marbles and may try that, or some fruit while I get the layering and mixing down correctly.

I've also been following a teaching that lays down an underpainting first, that is, you first draw all the dark areas, like your shadows, then putting down your light colors. Don't like that. I went back to basics and started to do what Nolan taught, laying down the light and gradually building up your values. That seems to be working with CP as well with the small experiment I did. Now to combine that with the correct paper.
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Happychappy on February 08, 2016, 03:26:54 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Excellent Barry and very interesting reading everyone's suggestions and experience with CP's.


Patricia
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BarryC on February 26, 2016, 04:56:48 PM
Still playing with color. I like how the apple came out.

Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Kathysutterlin on February 26, 2016, 05:01:38 PM
 :clap: Awesome, Barry.  :congrats: Yes, I like the apple too! Nice rich color and the highlight makes it look like very shiny. I really want to work with colored and water color pencils at some point!   :)
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Val on February 26, 2016, 05:49:15 PM
Great job Barry.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: jillh on February 26, 2016, 05:54:41 PM
Nicely done Barry!
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Post by: KathyKuz on February 26, 2016, 06:13:15 PM
Barry: Nice apple. Colored pencils are so much fun.
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Post by: Steve Weatherwax on February 26, 2016, 06:28:31 PM
Nicely done, Barry. Let me give you some apple-ause. :clap::clap::clap:
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Post by: dennis on February 26, 2016, 07:12:17 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Just missing the highlights on the other two O0
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 26, 2016, 07:31:10 PM
Nice apple, Barry. 

Is the blue circle a beautiful marble or a fancy soccer ball?

aloha

mea
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Annie. on February 27, 2016, 06:40:42 AM
Apple-ause  :2funny:

Beautiful apple  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BarryC on February 27, 2016, 10:49:40 AM
Thanks everyone. Mea, I guess that's the point, if ya can't tell what it is.....

It is suppose to be a marble, and that other "thing" is suppose to be a nectarine, but looks like a pumpkin to me!

I have to admit that i was not trying to be carful drawing, just trying to get a nack for mixing the colors. This is devilishly hard.
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 27, 2016, 11:31:49 AM
Barry,

As long as we improve with each attempt, that's all that counts.

If I were to mistake the marble for an ice cream cone, then you would have been in trouble.

Just keep doing what you are doing because it is working!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Happychappy on February 27, 2016, 01:37:14 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Barry, your apple is so well done.  You have the colour combinations perfect. Great to see.


Patricia
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Danielle123 on February 28, 2016, 05:16:29 AM
 :clap:  :clap:  :clap: Your apple and marble are very nice,  I wouls darken the wright side of them both to give it more rounding and at this point you can put a bit more pressure on them.  Your shadows a bit darker at the base and fading away.     For the orange I would make the bottom rounder so it ca sit on the surface.  Have fun.     The more you blend the better it gets.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BeaSue on February 28, 2016, 06:07:21 AM
Great job on that apple, Barry! Danielle has offered some good suggestions. Because colored pencil work is soooo slow, I find that this offers the opportunity to really focus on what I see, rather than my preconceived idea of the object. (I tend to lose that focus when painting watercolor.)

I look forward to seeing more of your CP paintings.
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: nolan on March 01, 2016, 12:43:56 PM
coming along nicely Barry :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BarryC on August 24, 2016, 06:13:11 PM
 Still tinkering, but only done three drawings since I've been away.

Prismacolor on stonehedge

Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: mea hamo pena on August 24, 2016, 06:59:08 PM
Barry,

Missed you!!

I love this.  Great blend of colors.  Nostalgia.  Drama.

It's got it all.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Kathysutterlin on August 24, 2016, 07:39:44 PM
 :heeha: Wow Barry. The colors and detail are incredible. Is this all colored pencil? Some of the color is so vibrant. I love the look of the frosted glass. It is quite realistic. Bravo!  :clap: :yippee: :clap:
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: TeresaM on August 24, 2016, 11:38:08 PM
:heeha: Wow Barry. The colors and detail are incredible. Is this all colored pencil? Some of the color is so vibrant. I love the look of the frosted glass. It is quite realistic. Bravo!  :clap: :yippee: :clap:
I so agree with everything Kathy said. Wonderful work.
TeresaM
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: KathyKuz on August 25, 2016, 05:04:27 AM
Barry:  You have really done a great job on your lanterns.  The colors are beautiful shaded.   :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Val on August 25, 2016, 01:39:42 PM
 :heeha: Good to see you back Barry. Excellent work on the lanterns, nice wood effect.  O0 Love that blue lantern. Well done you!  O0    :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: JayJ on August 25, 2016, 01:56:27 PM
Nice drawing Barry!
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Post by: Steve Weatherwax on August 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
Beautiful job, Barry! O0 Glad to see you posting again. :)
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BeaSue on August 26, 2016, 02:36:46 AM
Excellent, Barry! How do you like working with colored pencils?
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BarryC on August 26, 2016, 04:23:13 AM
Thanks everyone.

Wish I had time for more, just too many projects in the fire. I will post another one of my drawing soon, a half completed one, showing my frustration with this.

The amount of time needed for CP is an order of magnitude greater than grafite, so I find myself working on them for just short periods of time, then leaving them for awhile.

What keeps me motivated is some of the work I see out there that is so incredible one would think a photograph you were looking at a photo.

Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BarryC on August 26, 2016, 04:30:26 AM
Here is one that I gave up on. I found the flowers just difficult to do. I may come back and finish once I get more experience.

Polychromos

Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Steve Weatherwax on August 26, 2016, 05:11:06 AM
Looks wonderful to me, Barry. I don't think you need to add much to the flowers. Leaving them understated really focuses my attention on the radiant butterfly.

Time is precious, isn't it? I'm finding alloting enough time to art during the summer a real problem, even though I'm retired! The good news is that I should have a bunch more time once the good weather tanks at the end of October. :)

Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Gita on August 26, 2016, 05:33:40 AM
The lanterns and the butterfly are so well done, Barry. If this is only CP, wow, such vibrant colours! Looking forward to see more of this wonderful drawings!  :clap:
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on August 26, 2016, 07:22:10 AM
Looks wonderful to me, Barry. I don't think you need to add much to the flowers. Leaving them understated really focuses my attention on the radiant butterfly

I completely agree with Steve. The butterfly is beautiful with the soft flowers in the background.  :clap:
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Post by: mea hamo pena on August 26, 2016, 08:27:23 AM
Barry,

I agree - the butterfly is the star of the show - subdued flowers make a good backdrop.

Love the brilliance of the color.

So happy you are doing art again

aloha

mea
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: TeresaM on August 26, 2016, 04:57:08 PM
I agree with Steve well done
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Post by: Annie. on August 28, 2016, 04:36:10 AM
I wonder what you had in mind for the background because, like the others, I like the soft background.

The butterfly is lovely and so are the lanterns, which I miss seeing before.  You sure have a lot of patience working with CP   :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Happychappy on August 29, 2016, 06:22:43 AM
Barry, it is lovely to see you back.  Your lanterns are OUTSTANDING!!!  You have done such a good job on them, the frosted glass is fantastic.  Your butterfly is also so good.


Patricia
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: dennis on August 31, 2016, 01:02:21 AM
You are doing great so far, Barry :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: BarryC on September 07, 2016, 04:29:59 PM
I think I did a bit better on the flowers, but still find them extremely difficult and may spend an hour on one petal.  I used stonehenge vellum white 250gsm, and  both prisma color and polychromos, with the background in graphite.

Any words of wisdom, and critique to improve is alway welcome.

Reference and class by Nilda Rosa Rodriguez.

Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: mea hamo pena on September 07, 2016, 05:14:18 PM
Great work, Barry.  Lots of color and drama with the little bird.

Other than maybe a bit of dark in the center of the two large flowers to add some depth, I'd say this is excellent.  Nice muted background that does not compete for attention.

Happy you could find the time to do it.  Well worth the effort.

aloha

mea

Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: Steve Weatherwax on September 07, 2016, 05:41:25 PM
Looks beautiful to me, Barry! O0 O0 You're really doing well with the colored pencils.
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Post by: Annie. on September 07, 2016, 05:52:23 PM
Barry, I say A+  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

The time you spend working the fine details sure show off.  This is very beautiful.  :yippee:
Title: Re: BarryC Colored Pencil
Post by: TeresaM on September 07, 2016, 07:46:29 PM
Another good picture you blend the colours beautifully
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on September 07, 2016, 09:25:52 PM
 :heeha: I love hummingbirds and yours is gorgeous.  I agree with the others. You do beautiful work with colored pencils.  Great detail, Barry.  :clap:
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Post by: nolan on September 08, 2016, 02:57:57 AM
beautiful work Barry :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
I especially love those lanterns :congrats: