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Title: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: BeaSue on October 20, 2014, 08:51:27 AM
I am sooo tempted to try this! Ester Roi has developed a device she calls an Icarus Board. You put your paper on this board, turn it on, and begin drawing on your paper with waxy artist's crayon or colored pencils. The board heats the paper, thereby melting your media. Such exciting effects!

http://esterroi.com/blog/post/2014/10/river-pebbles-no.-13 (http://esterroi.com/blog/post/2014/10/river-pebbles-no.-13)

I have been following her for a couple of months now, and find her techniques so exciting. Of course, trying this would include a, not insubstantial, investment of $$$.

By clicking on other links here, you can watch some short YouTube videos on the process of using the Icarus board with  waxy artist's crayons or pencils.
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: C.Bodine on October 20, 2014, 09:24:26 AM
Her work is beautiful! I didn't see her method, just her work. Crazy question :D.....If it is a matter of heating the crayon you put down on the surface, could you not create your own hot surface with a electric griddle(like for pancakes) with a temperature dial? I am suggesting this without actually seeing her technique, so this may be a completely off the wall idea!  :)
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: BeaSue on October 20, 2014, 10:02:50 AM
Christina, I'll bet you could use a griddle if you could make sure the temperature didn't get too high and burn the paper. Wouldn't THAT be unfortunate?  :o

You can see some videos here:  http://icarusart.net/technique.html (http://icarusart.net/technique.html)

Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: BeaSue on October 20, 2014, 10:26:17 AM
I just remembered that I have an old heating tray--the kind of thing you use when you want to keep food warm--and it has a "high" and a "low" setting. I might give this a try using that tray.
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: ncwren on October 20, 2014, 10:44:03 AM
Cookie sheet on a heating pad might work well also.
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: BeaSue on October 20, 2014, 11:13:18 AM
Cookie sheet on a heating pad might work well also.

Good idea, Natalie.

People here are so inventive!
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: C.Bodine on October 20, 2014, 11:32:36 AM
That's pretty cool! The "home-made" versions may be worth trying, before you invest in something expensive. Let us know if you try it!
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: nolan on October 20, 2014, 11:59:21 AM
it sounds like great fun
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: May lynn on October 20, 2014, 12:14:11 PM
Dear BeaSue;

A very unique art form.   Your idea of using an older
style warming tray might work just as well as the fancy
one used in the videos.   The good thing about that is
most thrift store have plenty of them kicking around for
about $2.00. 

If you do experiment with yours please report back
and tell us how it worked.

May lynn
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: BeaSue on October 20, 2014, 12:17:24 PM
Well, I just ordered Caran d'Ache Neocolor II Artists' Crayon Set (15 artist's crayons), so I'll dig out my vintage (circa 1968) food warming tray and give these a try when I get my crayons. I'll share the results here.
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: mucciad on October 20, 2014, 01:13:08 PM
This is gorgeous! I can't see to see your work!
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: thegrindre on October 20, 2014, 01:53:49 PM
This is absolutely fascinating!  :eek:
 :thankyou: for sharing it.  O0
I can certainly see the horrible mess I would make if I tried it.  :2funny:
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: BeaSue on October 20, 2014, 02:51:59 PM
Aw, c'mon, Rick. Give it a try!
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: thegrindre on October 21, 2014, 12:12:10 AM
Aw, c'mon, Rick. Give it a try!
Oh, you bad girl...  :2funny:
I can see it now. I get up from the table, knock it off onto the floor... FACE DOWN...  :heeha:
I'd never get that stuff outta the carpeting.  :eek:

 ;)
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: Val on October 21, 2014, 01:51:43 AM
Don't feel bad Rick.... that's why I often get banished to the cockpit back home...we can just hose it down!!   :2funny:
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: Denise808 on October 22, 2014, 06:45:04 PM
Wow, love how brilliant the colors look!!
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: BeaSue on October 26, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
Well, as promised in the topic about Ester Roi, I am reporting back my results of using a food warming tray to activate colors. (Boy...I am no Ester Roi!  ;D)


The top two demonstrations were done with Prismacolor colored pencils. These are soft, wax-based pencils--very creamy. The image on the left has been burnished by placing the paper on a food warming tray on the highest setting and using a paper stump to burnish it. The pencils did melt somewhat, but I could never seem to get the color well into the tooth of the paper. The image on the top right was done by burnishing the colored pencils with a paper stump dipped into baby oil. Much better result.

The bottom two images were made using Caron d'Ache Neocolor II, a Swiss product that is a water-soluble wax pastel. They look and act like crayons. I had the same issue with the heat--it never melted the medium enough to get it into the paper. The image on the lower right is with the same crayons that were activated using a damp brush and clear water. I could move the color around a little bit--unlike any of the other options--and it felt like watercolor.

Lessons learned:

1. My food warming tray got quite hot, but maybe Roi's tray gets even hotter (?!) Also, I know I wasn't as careful as she was about going painstaking step-by-step when she demonstrated how to do the pebbles. I was just eager to get some comparisons done.

2. When working with this sort of medium, it might be better to use a smoother surface (I used Arches 140 lb cold press paper), like a hot-pressed paper.

3.  If you press too hard when transferring your drawing to the paper, you will end up with indentations on the paper that can be a little hard to fill with color.

4.  I prefer my watercolors to these. I like to be able to see what my results will be, rather than laying down color and then using something to burnish--heat or baby oil or a solvent or water--to see what the final result will be. I don't like feeling that I was giving up that sort of control.

5.  The watercolor crayons are actually rather fun, and I think they could be used successfully to handle some backgrounds. I'm going to try them for this.
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: nolan on October 26, 2014, 12:00:20 PM
looks like you had fun with this. The top two seem the nicer of the four. I agree on the paper being too rough, a smoother paper would have dramatically improved the final result. well done :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: ncwren on October 26, 2014, 01:22:16 PM
Heat gun?
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: BeaSue on October 26, 2014, 01:35:34 PM
Heat gun?


Blow torch?????  :pullhair:
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: mea hamo pena on October 26, 2014, 02:26:37 PM
BeaSue,

This looks very interesting and fun to do.

Results are quite lovely.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Ester Roi & her Icarus Board
Post by: ncwren on October 26, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
 ;D