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Title: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 18, 2014, 08:15:29 PM

hi all i attempted this portrait of my oldest daughter. would love to have any comments and feedback. i will try and upload my reference photo of her. did try unsuccessfully
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 18, 2014, 08:21:57 PM

oh i succeeded!!! this is the reference photo i worked with. it is very personal drawing your loved one ,but i can say how rewarding it was and so much inspiration i have had. i am now going to attempt drawing my younger daughter. the hard part is getting them to let me take photo's!!!!.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 18, 2014, 10:19:50 PM
Brony,

Your likeness of your daughter is quite good.  That must have been challenging.

You did very well.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 18, 2014, 10:54:49 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: yes very challenging. only first attempt yet feel i will inprove on next one
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Lisafromoto on March 19, 2014, 02:18:09 AM
Hmm I thought I had replied to this post but no sign of it.  If it shows up I apologise  :blush:  :)

I love your drawing, I just wonder if maybe you need to bring the fringe down a little something is not quite right there.  You have a very beautiful daughter  :)
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Happychappy on March 19, 2014, 02:39:42 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Wow, Brony, you have done an exceptional job on your eldest daughter's portrait.  You can be so very proud of yourself.  I would, however, agree with Lisa in having that wisp of hair coming lower over her forehead, take a look at the reference photo, actually, it may even be the shadow of the wisp of hair.  However, your portrait is top class.  Excellent job.  Patricia
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: jennylynn on March 19, 2014, 10:57:06 AM
brony excellent job on the portrait of your very pretty daughter  O0  I do agree with the others I think that her fringe should come just a little lower down her forehead, other than that magnifico   :yippee:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Danielle123 on March 19, 2014, 03:27:47 PM
Brony, beautiful drawing of your daughter, anxious to see the other drawing.  Great work. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Daisyblue77 on March 19, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
Beautiful daughter .... beautiful drawing.   :clap:  :yippee:

I also agree with everyone regarding the fringe. 
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: nolan on March 19, 2014, 06:21:53 PM
great job for a first full portrait Brony :heeha: :clap: :clap: :clap:

As you gain more experience drawing portraits, you will spot those smaller tonal value changes, then your portraits will have even more depth O0
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 19, 2014, 06:57:53 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: I can c what every one is saying and I am going to work on her more. great to have feedback
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: jillh on March 19, 2014, 07:24:06 PM
Beautiful Daughter.  Really good first attempt.
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Mariep on March 19, 2014, 07:40:33 PM
Well done Brony. Good first attempt!!! Beautiful daughter!!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Val on March 20, 2014, 03:44:11 AM
Great job Brony.  O0 Your first attempt is very well done. Looking forward to the next one.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Sarah (arch) on March 21, 2014, 05:21:08 AM
A lovely girl and a lovely drawing!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Dorothyofoz on March 24, 2014, 01:50:03 PM
Well done Brony.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Very brave tackling a family member for your first portrait.
The likeness is great.  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 24, 2014, 10:41:15 PM

hi all i have begun drawing my youngest daughter Lizzy , following the portrait drawing course. i posted a drawing of my older daughter last week and would be grateful for feedback on these eyes, before i go any further.  lizzy has a lot of Freckles (Kisses from the sun!!!)  as i refer to them!!!!. so that will b a challenge when i get to them. Nolan i haven't seen any lessons on this (Kisses from the sun!!!). may b you could give me a few tips!!! :help: :help: :smiley6600:

i am now going to post my reference pic of lizzy!!!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 24, 2014, 10:43:47 PM

This is the reference photo i am working off to draw my youngest daughter Lizzy!!!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: jennylynn on March 25, 2014, 02:04:53 AM
looking good so far brony  O0  perhaps a few highlights on the eyes?  but wait for the others to see what they say  O0
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: scribe on March 25, 2014, 04:53:07 AM
 :clap: Lovely drawaing

Peggy
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Sarah (arch) on March 25, 2014, 05:19:07 AM
Lovely eyes!!!!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: nolan on March 25, 2014, 01:45:19 PM
good start, the right hand pupil is just not in the center though :-\
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Happychappy on March 25, 2014, 04:00:43 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Brony, you are doing a great job so far.   Can't wait to see the finished drawing.  Patricia
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 25, 2014, 04:02:01 PM
 :thankyou:nolan i will attend to that!!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 25, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:all your comments r very encouraging, i am now drawing my younger daughter, who has freckles (kisses from the sun) as i refer to them. so will a challenge!!!! :) :)
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: lynn p. on March 25, 2014, 06:37:33 PM
Brony, this is such a great likeness.  It's funny but sometimes the features look just right in a portrait but the essence is missing.  You have captured it all.  It is great as is.  If you wanted to fiddle, I would study some of the darker values like the eyebrows, the skin from the cheeks down and the darks in her hair. Stunning job for your first portrait!!!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: lynn p. on March 25, 2014, 06:50:14 PM
Hi Brony.  I really love what you are doing for your daughters and your other drawing is just great.  On this one, a great start.  I might look at the curvature of the left eyebrow and the shape of that eye as well.  Your photo reference shows less of an arch and a downward slant to the top of the left eye.  Happy Drawing!!!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 25, 2014, 06:54:28 PM
thanku lyn i see what u mean. will work on it. i havent really finish the eyebrows as yet. i have been working today on her nose so will post it for comments .
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 25, 2014, 06:57:04 PM

this is so far my daughters nose. i'm really not sure any help!!!!. nolan what do u think about the eye now?.
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 25, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: lyn yes i was a bit too to go further. i am doing it more on my second daughter, but i am going to go back and enhance tonles more on this daughter
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 25, 2014, 09:45:57 PM
Brony,

Your daughters are lovely.

Second daughter's eyeball centers seem to be too different from each other - one bigger than the other.

Otherwise, it looks like it's going to be really good.  Love the eyelashes and eyebrows.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: nolan on March 25, 2014, 10:14:48 PM
is it just me or has the left hand iris moved? it was in the center, and now it isn't :-\
The right hand one is centered now though :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 25, 2014, 10:22:40 PM
hi nolan when u say right eye, do u mean with me looking at the subject or right eye if they were standing next to me?.

i have got a little more confidence in my first daughters portriat withtonal values. please let me know what u think!!!

I am having a great time learning from the portrait course and applying it to my beautifulchildren as subjects. hopefully the mouth tutoria will be up by tomorrow so i can follow. just want to say thanku to everone for your opinions and input, it really helps!!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 25, 2014, 10:28:08 PM
nolan its when i keep trying to put in the reflection light, and it just seems to diminish the pupil :confused: :confused: :confused: :help: :help:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 25, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
Brony,

Really nice portrait.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 25, 2014, 10:32:25 PM


this is my new drawing after being a little braver to add more tonal value. i am not very sure though :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 25, 2014, 10:37:57 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: mea. nolan u r so right i will shift that eye!!!!.  having lots of fun :) :) :)
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Steven on March 26, 2014, 12:53:29 AM
Nice job Brony, the pupil mismatch Nolan mentioned is still off-putting, as you look at the picture, the left pupil has a white highlight cupping the lower left and that pushes the pupil up and to the right so that it doesn't agree with the right one...  otherwise you have nailed this one! Bravo! :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: nolan on March 26, 2014, 04:17:39 PM
when I talk about left I always refer to my left, ie., the eye on the left hand side of the canvas
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: nolan on March 26, 2014, 04:20:06 PM
I have merged all your portraits into one topic, that way it is easier to find and they are all together so it is easier to follow your progress O0
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 26, 2014, 10:55:34 PM

Firstly thanku nolan for merging my studies. today i followed the mouth drawing lesson and applied it to my portrait of my daughter. So good r Nolan's detailed lessons. :clap: :clap: i spent six hours on this today. Hopefully i have made improvements on her eyes???.  I seem to have indented marks in my work around mouth. i have probably over worked it as i tend to do!!! :confused: :confused:! anyways would love any feedback on this before i travel any further!!!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 26, 2014, 11:00:59 PM
Brony,

The drawing of your daughter is coming along quite well.

I realize your daughter has light hair, but it seems to be too light as it goes behind her neck.

Otherwise, I'm sure she will be pleased with how well you are doing with it.
aloha

mea
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 26, 2014, 11:10:16 PM
thanku i haven't really started on the hair yet i have just penciled it in very lightly for now. today i really just focused on her mouth.  had lots of enjoyment learning today :) :) :)

this is the colour reference of my daughter that i am working from. its the freckles (Kisses from the Sun) i am worried about
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 27, 2014, 07:57:20 AM
Oh, Brony.  She's lovely.  You are off to a really good start.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: nolan on March 27, 2014, 12:23:41 PM
the eyes are looking at you now Brony. :clap: :clap: :clap:
The bottom lip still needs some shading, it is round so goes darker to the bottom and very dark as it goes into the mouth, look carefully at your reference photo and you will see it. O0
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 27, 2014, 03:33:51 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou:oh yes nolan i see what u mean, i will work on that
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: jennylynn on March 28, 2014, 01:29:17 AM
brony this is looking so good  :yippee:  a few more tweaks like Nolan has suggested and your there  O0  your daughter is going to be so pleased  :yippee:  can't wait to see the finished portrait  :yippee:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 30, 2014, 07:13:41 PM

hi all this is my portrait finish. i don,t think the right is right. any feedback will b appreciated. i just let my pencil do the work for her freckles (Kisses from the sun), with very light circles.  not sure if i need to pronounce them or not. ps!!! she is 16 and hates it!!!!. oh teenagers!!!!!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 30, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
Good resemblance, Brony.

There's something not quite right with the nose, but I'm not sure what.  Maybe if you make a cut-out square and place it over different parts of your drawing and the original, you can see inconsistencies. (Hey, did I just invent a new technique???)

Other than that, I think you have done a wonderful job.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Luba on March 30, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
Hi Brony, I'm not an expert but I think that her teeth are a bit to big and may be the mouth to. But it's still a very nice pencil drawing. :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Steven on March 30, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
Nice work Brony! :clap:  You are going to need shading under the nose and the mouth, look back at your reference picture, without the shading the nose just doesn't end and merges with the area about the upper lip.  Also, change the position of the highlight in one of the eyes so they are exactly the same position, if not it gives a cockeyed look, even that little dot of white can change the way it looks!

Lastly, the hair in the reference photo has some nice dark highlights, there shouldn't be any white paper in the hair mass, it makes it look thin and stringy, your teen will appreciate the make over ;)
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on March 30, 2014, 11:25:16 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: all. i think i have some work to do.!!! i might just  start all over again!!!. i'm not really happy with this yet i feel i have learn't a lot from my portrait drawing,s. so back to the drawing board!!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Steven on March 31, 2014, 02:10:07 AM
Keep chipping away at it... you are close...  I spent about 6 hours on a pastel portrait today and I know what you mean wanting to just start again, and really, there is nothing wrong with that either, just be very careful when you place your features, and check them often... portrait are tough love I tell ya! O0 :painting:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Happychappy on March 31, 2014, 04:49:26 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Brony, you have done well with your portraits and I would agree with what the others have said. The main thing is that you are learning a lot and most importantly enjoying what you are doing which is what art is all about.  So go for it girl.   Patricia
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: nolan on March 31, 2014, 12:49:00 PM
I agree with the shadow under the nose, that will show the height of the nose O0
The mouth seems okay to me.
The left of her face seems fine to me
The right hand side is missing a shadow - notice how her face is almost "straight" where it meets the hair, yours is rounder on the drawing
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on April 07, 2014, 07:24:16 PM

this is an update of my oldest daughter nicki.

this is an update on my baby daughter lizzie.

this is tbe beginning of my drawing of my son harry. i am not really sure how i do the guitar string area. has a dark background and the strings on top, so any info and comments of how to, will be greatly appreciated. would also like to know if i have made improvements on my girls :blush: :blush: :blush:. below is the reference on my son that i am working from. Oh!! Nolan where do i go  from on this???  Feel like i am stuck:help: :help: :help:
 :-\ :-\ :-\ :) :) :) :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:

Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: mea hamo pena on April 07, 2014, 09:08:39 PM
Brony,

Your children are lucky to have an artist for a dad.  You have done well on their portraits.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: JayJ on April 07, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
Beautiful portraits Brony!
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on April 07, 2014, 09:41:13 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou:
hi mea i am the mother artist, not dad HA Ha!! LOL!! :) :) :). my profile pic really does not tell anyone my agenda!!. all good and thanks for positive feedback
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: mea hamo pena on April 07, 2014, 10:24:42 PM
Yikes, I'm embarrassed, Brony.  I should have read your profile.  The kids are lucky to have such a talented mom.

Sorry - just learned a lesson - never presume or assume anything about anyone on PB.

Thanks for being a good sport about it.  Hope your children have grown up with your sense of humor.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on April 08, 2014, 12:51:31 AM
all good mea. yes they have an incredible sense of houmor!!!!.i will endeavour to change my profile pic from my pouch to me. love all on paintbasket... its the place u can go always for hnest help and honest criticism, which i love!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Steven on April 08, 2014, 02:24:29 AM
The girls need a bit of a salon visit... that is to say, the hair could use a bit of filling in, there shouldn't be any air gaps based on the reference pictures, also, shorten up the ends of your youngest's teeth... do it by shading the dark in the mouth above the lower lip.  Still a little darker with the shadow under the nose on the same daughter.  You are almost there!  Nice work so far  O0

Doing great so far on the figure on the instrument, but you have him playing a G chord instead of an E! :2funny:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Val on April 08, 2014, 04:01:39 AM
Brony, you're doing great on your son's portrait thus far.  :clap:   As to the neck of the guitar, shade in the neck and then lift out the strings and frets with your kneadable eraser and/or blue tack. Just enough to give the impression that they are there.  O0
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: nolan on April 08, 2014, 12:24:39 PM
Brony, Harry looks great so far :clap: :clap: :clap:
I would complete the guitar, then move on to the face O0
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on April 08, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: all.

steven i can see what u mean about lizzie teeth, so i will make an adjustment . thanks for bringing the e chord to my attention. i realized that i put the wrong ref pic on forum, so i will change it  to the correct pic. :idiot2: :idiot2:

 val thanks for the tip  on neck of guitar, i will try that today.

oh Nolan r u going to do some classes wlth coloured pencils in the future?
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Mariep on April 08, 2014, 08:37:41 PM
Ghee, well done Bronny :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on April 10, 2014, 06:49:20 PM

hi  all this is my finished drawing of my son Harry.i don.t think it looks like my reference in the face. any eyes that see what i should change will be very much appreciated. also should i put in a tonal background?
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: mea hamo pena on April 10, 2014, 10:02:09 PM
Looks pretty good to me, Brony.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: Steven on April 11, 2014, 12:25:17 AM
I'll give you a couple things to look at...  the arm on the right side (our right) needs to be in line with the T-Shirt sleeve, that is to say, hold a pencil over the sleeve and the arm should be in line with it below the guitar neck.  Your block in picture was good, his features morphed as you shaded, the eye brows are both arched now instead of flat.  The shading on the left side of the neck loses the definition of his jaw line and makes the cheek and neck all the same plane.  Remove the neck shading and redraw the jaw.  Also, look at the angle of the lips... you drew the left side up when it should be slightly down.  Those fixes should bring him closer to the intended picture.  Nice work so far! :clap:
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: brony on April 11, 2014, 04:25:45 AM
 :thankyou: :thankyou:steven i so appreciate other views and i will work it a bit more. i see exactly what u r saying, thanks. will repost, once done
Title: Re: Brony's portraits
Post by: nolan on April 12, 2014, 01:43:28 PM
unfortunately you have lost the shape and angle of the mouth so that is your first working point. Use your tracing paper to ensure you keep the features in the correct spot while drawing