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Title: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 21, 2014, 11:27:38 AM
In order for me to easily find and answer queries about this Lesson I will appreciate it if everyone stay on topic in this thread. Thank You

Get access to the class HERE (http://www.paintbasket.com/paintbaskettv/online-art-class.php?class=444)

Before the class please print out the templates HERE (http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/pencil/1-class-prep.pdf)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 22, 2014, 12:40:51 PM
Usually takes a day or two to get the replay up. If you signed up for the lesson you'll receive an email telling you the replay is available.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: C.Bodine on January 22, 2014, 01:31:08 PM
Nolan, are the first few free drawing classes basically the same as the drawing course?
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 22, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
there is an overlap C because the basics are the basics and can't really be changed ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 22, 2014, 01:44:34 PM
I did get to see some of the lesson....for some reason you tube just doesn't want to work for me even after I sign in to google.  (https://d326oobcc22bax.cloudfront.net/content/50382/1508476.GIF) (http://www.Quebles.com/Hotmail-Tools/Emoticons/)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on January 22, 2014, 02:03:16 PM
 :thankyou:  Nolan for the lesson today which I enjoyed as it was a good refresher for me.  Looking forward to getting into the 'meat' of the course.  Thank you once again for your generosity.  Patricia 
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: C.Bodine on January 22, 2014, 02:33:18 PM
Thank you, Nolan.  O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: MSWcrane on January 22, 2014, 02:34:00 PM
Val, SOOOO SORRY  Hopefully you will get the replay.   :hug:

Nolan, I really enjoyed the class even though it was a repeat of the other class ideas.  Like you said basics are basics and it is where the class needs to start.
You did point out a few things I had not heard in the other class and it was great to redo the beginning lessons.  I found them somewhat easier, but still I am still no wheres near perfect in the strokes.  (I will post those pages later today, need to finish them).  Great Class,   :thankyou:

Here is my first drawing, the ball.  I think perhaps my shadow is not correct, which I noticed as I photographed it.  The shadow should be more straight across the bottom of the ball, I think.  Other than that, over all I am happy with this one. 

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: MSWcrane on January 22, 2014, 02:38:19 PM
Wow, now I see pressure marks from the 'Strokes' page on my picture.  Guess next time I will use the page that is on the bottom of the stack   :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 22, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
try and get the transition between your tones smoother Sue. Take a look at the lower part of the ball, where the mid tone and dark tones meet, you still have a line.

Looking at the depth of the strokes exercise that have dented your paper, it tells me that you are pressing WAY too hard when you draw. Let the softness of the pencil give you the darkness you need. Pressing hard is only for the final darkest tonal values O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: topjars on January 22, 2014, 04:02:06 PM
Wow, now I see pressure marks from the 'Strokes' page on my picture.  Guess next time I will use the page that is on the bottom of the stack   :2funny:
Damn good effort Sue :clap:
It was an enjoyable class - the biggest tips I received were NOT to press hard and the kneadable rubber usage.
Thanks again Nolan.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: MSWcrane on January 22, 2014, 04:16:00 PM
Thanks Nolan, I will work on smoothing out the transitions. 
Good point about pressing too hard.  Will try again on those lines too.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Maryna on January 22, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
thanks for the class, I only watched a section of the first hour. I got uncomfortable with one of the 'visitors' on the chat who suddenly seemed to be a 'fan' of me and I left.

Will catch the replay.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Alice L Lemke on January 22, 2014, 07:52:21 PM
Thank you for the class!  It was a very nice demo.  Sorry we on the chat started to entertain ourselves - if you aren't actually working, it's hard to watch something so repetitive as exercises.  I wish you had done less of that and more of the interesting things.  After a few strokes, we get the idea and want to see it used on actual drawings.

Maryna, if you don't like to follow what's on the chat, just make the video fill up the screen.  That's what I do during the classes so I'm not distracted.

Speaking of distracted, I was actually at work so I only caught the last hour.

 
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 22, 2014, 08:26:22 PM
Alice I specifically only showed the necessary bits instead of doing the full exercise. I couldn't get away with showing less unfortunately otherwise I would end up getting heaps of enquiries on the forum about what to do next.

If you don't understand these basics then you will battle with the interesting stuff later on :-\
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: NHC50 on January 22, 2014, 08:43:04 PM
Hey Nolan,
Thanks for the lesson. I was not able to stay. But what I saw was good. I did learn some new things. I guess we are never to old to learn. Will watch the replay. Thanks again.
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Maryna on January 22, 2014, 08:45:25 PM
Those basics is so important, even after I have done it a million times, I always go back and do some basic techniques still from time to time.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jennylynn on January 23, 2014, 02:42:51 AM
Nolan  :thankyou:  for the class did I find it boring NO !!  it is always good to "refresh" our memories and there are also some members who have not done the lets draw course  O0  too build a house you have too have good foundations  O0  this was the beginning of our foundation course  O0  although I have done these exercises I will be doing them again after all no-one is perfect  O0  looking forward to next weeks class  :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 23, 2014, 04:57:23 AM
Absolutely fantastic Nolan,  :thankyou: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers:
It was such fun to see the stuff from the Let's Draw course again, I had forgotten so much of what we had done!
 
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: barex on January 23, 2014, 06:04:52 AM
today is 1/23, and I was able to print off the 2 pages...thx, hope everyone else finally was able... :thankyou:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: doina on January 23, 2014, 07:36:22 AM
here is my tonal chart. Doina

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 23, 2014, 11:00:13 AM
well done Doina. :clap: :clap: :clap:
see if you can get the one or two transition lines on the bottom row away, get where the 2B and 4B meet. O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: doina on January 23, 2014, 11:23:55 AM
Thanks Nolan, I'll try again. Doina
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: SunRai on January 23, 2014, 06:48:52 PM
For some reason I was unable to get on today, even though I did get on the Pastel class   :confused: .  But, I see the replay is already up so I'll at least get to see that.  :clap:   It sounds like it was another fun class! 
 
Thanks Nolan!  :thankyou:
 
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: doina on January 23, 2014, 07:05:59 PM
Here is my "stroke exercises" page. This is the 6th rendition. I know it is not perfect. Doina

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 23, 2014, 07:13:37 PM
looks spot on to me Doina :clap: :clap: :clap: is there an improvement between version 1 and 6?
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: doina on January 23, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
oh yes, like from day to night. I am tired now, but tomorrow I'll do at least 2 more, and correct the tonal chart. Good night, Doina
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jillh on January 23, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
Nolan, I wasn't able to attend the live presentation, however have just watched the replay and I must say the quality of picture and sound was excellent.  Congrats! On a really good introduction to drawing.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: eftpower1 on January 23, 2014, 08:37:48 PM
Nolan
WOW
      1) The studio set up / cameras are fantastic :clap:
       2)  The info was presented in a superb way.  Clear, concise, understandable AND repeatable by US.
 Thank you so much.  And your statement about drawing being essential, for me is spot on!!!
Some people find it hard to believe that Pablo Picasso was a master draftsman!
 
I am looking forward to the rest of the course.
Again, thank you!
Brian

P.S.  have worked both sides of the camera And your setup is outstanding :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Emmybear on January 23, 2014, 09:24:28 PM
Hi. I'm new here, having just found this site last night. Since then I've watched two of the free videos and plan on purchasing the Let's Draw course as soon as I feel like I've mastered the basics.

While I've done these exercises before, I haven't drawn in about five years due to a diagnosis of rheumatoid arthritis - so now I'm having to learn from the beginning all over again, with hands that shake slightly. Do you have any tips that might help making my lines straighter? I find that when I flick, the line is relatively straight and even, but when I draw with more control it wiggles back and forth a bit. So frustrating! :)

Anyway, I just wanted to drop a note so I'm not lurking around, I'll put some examples of what I mean on the page I drew my ball on and post it below (my scanner is apparently terrible! will use a camera next time ^-^) :

(http://www.paintbasket.com/members/MGalleryItem.php?id=13348)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Susan63 on January 24, 2014, 02:50:40 AM
Hi Nolan. The link for the templates on the forum, doesnt seem to be working today
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 24, 2014, 03:07:05 AM
Hi Susan, I just tried the link on page one and it worked perfectly.  O0 Give it another go.   :wave:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 24, 2014, 11:20:21 AM
you can also pick up the templates from the replay O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 24, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
W-e-l-l-. . . . here is my tonal chart. . .I'm not too happy with the final results though. I had difficulty with the darker pencils, getting a smooth transition from one tonal value to another. I remember this exercise from Let's Draw and I think I flunked it that time. . . so no surprizes then  ;D   
Faber-Castell "Goldfaber" pencils, all sharpened in the chisel point.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: doina on January 24, 2014, 12:06:34 PM
It is very well done Bev  :clap: :clap: Doina
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: May lynn on January 24, 2014, 04:55:43 PM
Bev S.

Well done indeed!!!!!  I wish mine looked that good, I guess I'll just have to "Practice, Practice Practice".

Excellent .   :clap:

May lynn
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jillh on January 24, 2014, 05:52:34 PM
Very well done Bev.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: sally13 on January 24, 2014, 06:15:40 PM
That's an excellent chart. :clap: :welcome:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: lynn p. on January 24, 2014, 06:37:54 PM
Oh my goodness Roxy, you go to the head of the class.  Looks like Nolan's!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 25, 2014, 03:44:28 AM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: Doina, May Lynn, Jill, Sally and Lynn for all the kind words!
I'll tell you a little trick I used, to keep the lines all nice and straight. . . . I put strips of artists tape (or you can use painters tape or masking tape, but make sure it's not very sticky!) along the top and bottom of the lines before I start. That way, you don't have to worry about going over the line and can concentrate more on your pencil pressure and getting your values correct. Neat trick to relieve some stress  :) 
Important Note: Pull the tape off very carefully, even use a blow dryer if it looks like it might be too sticky
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on January 25, 2014, 04:29:33 AM
 O0 O0 O0  Bev, an absolute neat/tidy/pleasure to look at tonal chart.  Thank you for that good tip too.  The more we can get in our bag of arsenals, the better for us oldies whose control, eye sight, hearing and everything else has gone/going south!!!    :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:   Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jennylynn on January 25, 2014, 07:54:39 AM
WOW bev what an amazing tonal chart you certainly have done very well on this one ?  great tip as regards the tape  O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 25, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
 :thankyou:  Patricia and  :thankyou:  Jennylynn! I think any little trick to make things go easier is A OK!!!!
Now, here is the famous, or perhaps the infamous "ball'. . . . . .
Drat. . .now that I see it up there on the screen, I see that it is a bit wonky, still. . .even after all my hard work to make the darn thing not wonky. . grrrrr :pullhair:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: fruhulda on January 25, 2014, 12:00:56 PM
Nolan, when we practise the line strokes are we "allowed" turn the paper around to make it easier to get good lines?
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 25, 2014, 02:45:01 PM
Great job Bev :clap: :clap: :clap:
Just one thing that needs some work : the top tonal row - the tonal transitions are not quite correct yet. I see 3 light, two mid tone blocks which are basically the same. 4B and 6B look good. Use the printable tonal chart to check your values O0

Fruhulda - Strictly speaking you would not turn the page, but let's face it - when busy with a real drawing you would turn the page, so go ahead and turn your page for this exercise as well if you want to
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: fruhulda on January 25, 2014, 09:55:49 PM
OK, Nolan. For the exercise I will not turn the paper if doesnt get to difficult.  :smart:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 26, 2014, 02:42:16 PM
These darn spheres or balls are the hardest dang things to draw!!!!
Here's my 2nd attempt and it's worse than the first one. . . .please don't shoot me Nolan. . .  :'(
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 26, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
 ;D shoot you? I'd never do that :o well maybe if you steal my pencil I might ::)

are you gradually going from your 2H to your 6B pencil while shading the ball?
are you overlapping each layer, ie. take the light too far out, then start the dark too far out and gradually bring it closer.
If you are then it comes down to controlling the pressure you are applying.

Drawing a ball is not as easy as it looks, that is why it is such a classic object to start a course with. It requires full control over your pencils.

Practice, practice, practice, you can do it O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 26, 2014, 05:21:22 PM
Look into my eyes......  (https://d326oobcc22bax.cloudfront.net/content/50136/1507126.GIF) (http://www.Quebles.com/Hotmail-Tools/Emoticons/)   you can do this Roxy.    :cheering: :cheering: :cheering:       :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 27, 2014, 07:52:44 AM
Thanks Val, I really need the cheering squad more than ever . . . . .this darn ball! You would think that it would be easy to do. . . NOT!!! I understand the mechanics, I watch the video (over & over) and then my pencils just go where the devil leads them. . . . .grrrr :banghead:
Okay, rant over, off to do Ball Exercise # 3. . . .maybe it the old "third time's a charm" eh?
 
My darling hubby said I needed training wheels for my ball exercises. . . . . . .very funny!!!!!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jennylynn on January 27, 2014, 12:29:28 PM
    well been practising all week  O0  here is my shaded ball, still trying to get the pencil tones right  :-\   tried to get the ball as round as possible freehand  :)  although have done the lets draw course still havn't got it absolutely  right  :( 
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 27, 2014, 01:18:58 PM
Not to worry Jenny, more important to get the values/shading correct. Getting it round will come with practice. The more circles you practice the easier it will get.  O0   Great job on this one.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on January 27, 2014, 09:06:45 PM
Way to go guys. Here is mine.
I never realized the values build in concentric circles around the highlight before. It made it easier to do! I should have shaded the reflected light a little bit.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 27, 2014, 10:58:27 PM
Good job on the ball, Sarah.

Great try, Jennylynn.

I like wonky, Bev S.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 28, 2014, 02:45:56 AM
 :heeha:   Beautiful Sarah, you might be right about toning down the reflected light a bit. Looks awesome  O0

 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: doina on January 28, 2014, 04:47:45 AM
 I won't be able to watch the live classes on Tuesdays from now on, because conflict of schedules. Thanks to Nolan, we have the replays available. I count on them now. Doina
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 28, 2014, 06:06:50 AM
Nice one, Ms. Sarah :clap: :clap: :clap:
Yours is good too, Jennylynn  :clap: :clap: :clap:
 :thankyou: Mea, you are so sweet!
 
It's so nice to see people sending in their homework no matter how good or in my case how bad it is. When Nolan can see what we are doing - which he could in real life - he can give us help and support/encouragement. He can't help us if we don't show him what we are doing. . . . . . .
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on January 28, 2014, 07:03:20 AM
Excellent shading everyone  :clap: :clap: :clap: .
 
Nolan, please excuse me from the class today.  I have booked it but cannot make it this afternoon. I will catch the replay and thank you once again for your generosity.   Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jennylynn on January 28, 2014, 07:28:00 AM
   well here is my 2nd shaded ball bit lighter this time  O0  and perhaps a little more rounder  O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 28, 2014, 10:20:31 AM
Another nice one, Jennylynn!!
I'm working on attempt #6 and still don't have one I'm willing to show anybody!
See you in class later!
 
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 28, 2014, 01:32:16 PM
Nolan, please excuse me from the class today.  I have booked it but cannot make it this afternoon.

Only if you have a note!  ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 28, 2014, 03:19:40 PM
Nolan, please excuse me from the class today.  I have booked it but cannot make it this afternoon.

Only if you have a note!  ;D
Yeah, and you better have a supper duper excuse to be bailin' on our Nolan. . . .  :2funny:
 
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on January 29, 2014, 04:03:33 AM
 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:  Bev, you are hilarious.  I really get a kick out of you.  Well, I did have an excellent excuse for missing what seems like a fantastic class but thank heavens for the replays.  I had to go across the River to collect my Faber Castell Pastel Pencils and am I delighted that I did.  They are gorgeous.  I am so happy  :yippee: . Now I can't wait to try them out.  Last night I sat making a colour chart of each pencil with their names, colour and numbers.  So I am now rearing to go.  Would love to try the coloured pencil with the pastels over it like you mentioned.   Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Agilepaws on January 29, 2014, 05:50:25 AM
Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums.

Here is a scan of my shaded ball.  It's not as lumpy around the edges in real life though:  Oh, and where can I get a copy of the spoon from yesterday's class?

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 29, 2014, 05:54:10 AM
 :welcome: Agilepaws. . . .nice shading on the ball!!
 
The replay of yesterdays lesson will be posted very soon and when it is the templates will be included.
Nice to have you in the group and good luck with the rest of the class!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 29, 2014, 06:37:32 AM
Welcome agilepaws,

You did well on shading the ball.  I was not concentrating hard enough.  Mine was not very good.

Hope to see lots more of your work.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: anki on January 29, 2014, 09:40:58 AM
Quite agree with you Val!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: MSWcrane on January 29, 2014, 11:25:10 AM


Both from first online live class
Nolan, I had a hard time with the dark end of the shadings, I even used a B9 after the B4 pencil.  Think I got too dark with the B4 pencil, tried to erase some but still looks bad.    :(

Also I realized one reason why I pressed so hard with my other page of strokes was I was using a 2H pencil.   
This time I used an HB and was careful not to press hard except in a few places on the bottom line   :o
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 29, 2014, 11:46:37 AM
Great job on the shaded balls Sarah, Jennylynn and AgilePaws :clap: :clap: :clap:
Sue your tonal chart if spot on. It will serve you well in the drawings ahead :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on January 29, 2014, 11:54:05 AM
Thanks Nolan and others for your comments. Welcome Agilepaws. I keep thinking how great it would be to have agile paws.  :yippee: If I did, I could be an artist yet! Nice job on your shaded ball. :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Agilepaws on January 29, 2014, 12:31:03 PM
Thank you all for the kind welcome and comments.  I just retired a week ago and now I'm having fun getting back into art.  I've downloaded other drawing and painting courses but just couldn't put the time in regularly to stay with it.  These two classes have really been enjoyable and being able to share with a group is really a bonus!

Is there going to be other classes following these two and if so where do I go to sign up?  I realize these two were free so others would have to be paid and that's okay with me.  From what I've gotten from these two classes it would be well worth the cost and from what I've seen they really aren't that expensive.  I live in a rural area and for me to drive somewhere to get lessons would cost loads more just in gas alone.

Thank you all again for making me feel at home!  :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 29, 2014, 02:59:00 PM
As Nolan suggested, I laminated my Pencil Tonal Chart & chopped off the bottom and the side edges. Thought you all might like to see how it turned out. . . . .
Works a treat, I'll tell you. . . . do one, you will thank Nolan from the bottom of your heart a million times over, believe me!!!
Now, if I could just shade a ball. . . . . . . . :pullhair:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 29, 2014, 07:35:57 PM
Bev,

Your tonal chart is very impressive.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 29, 2014, 11:07:13 PM
 :heeha: Wow..... that looks good.   :eek: Now I'll have to do another one.  :faint:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Steven on January 29, 2014, 11:35:31 PM
  Had to post it after my comments in the last class  :2funny:  I used absolutely zero pressure on this
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 30, 2014, 04:55:38 AM
Ha-ha! That'll teach you.  ;D    Excellent job on this one.   O0    :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: MSWcrane on January 30, 2014, 08:43:24 AM
 :welcome:  Agilepaws, you will really enjoy the classes here with Dennis and Nolan, and the Forum chat group is fun too.   :welcome:

Bev, Great Job on your tonal chart, looks real good!   :clap:

Steven, impressive ball there, no pressure works!    O0   You may want to put a bit of pressure on the beginning of your shadow, just against the ball to make it pop.

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 30, 2014, 10:42:08 AM
My word, Steven that is one impressive ball you have drawn!!! :yippee: I believe I am on trial #7 but who's counting, right?
 
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 30, 2014, 11:25:21 AM
I used absolutely zero pressure on this

 :cloud9:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 30, 2014, 01:18:19 PM
I believe I am on trial #7 but who's counting, right?

 >:D        ^-^
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: liz on January 31, 2014, 09:16:36 AM
It's unbelievable what a light hand and no pressure can do!  Good for you, Steven!   O0
I'm going to try that, too!
-Liz
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 31, 2014, 11:53:35 AM
and here is Cyril's attempt, which he aced, well done  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: SunRai on January 31, 2014, 01:44:09 PM
I hate missing classes, but am so glad for the replays. I'm probably going to be absent for awhile and will miss the interaction.  I'll pop in once in awhile as I can.  I'll post more on a separate thread. :hug: to you all - Pat
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on January 31, 2014, 02:31:15 PM
Here we go again. . . . . no introduction necessary.
Please, please tell me I got it right this time, please!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Steven on January 31, 2014, 03:09:07 PM
Nice tonal chart Bev!  :clap: :clap: 

Maybe if you had a pool table...  you might need to actually see a ball as a visual item to get the shading and reflections, are you drawing from an item or is this a mental image?  This one is pleasing to look at but the bottom of the ball should be closer to the tonal value of the shadow, it wouldn't require much of a tweek, imagine wrapping your 4B tonal strip around the ball...

I admire your persistence! O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 31, 2014, 03:12:09 PM
Bev S,

Your tonal chart and ball shading exercises look great to me.  I especially like the steadiness of the increase in your tones. 

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 31, 2014, 04:57:50 PM
beautifully smooth shaded ball Bev :heeha: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Steven on January 31, 2014, 05:16:08 PM
Oh shoot, Nolan and Mea like it as is..  I was going to see just how many more balls Bev would draw... >:D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 31, 2014, 05:31:11 PM
Steven,

Go to your room!!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: dennis on January 31, 2014, 06:39:43 PM
 :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on January 31, 2014, 06:46:06 PM
Geez, Steven, you are a little devil   >:D >:D >:D .
 
Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on February 01, 2014, 04:31:53 AM
Oh shoot, Nolan and Mea like it as is..  I was going to see just how many more balls Bev would draw... >:D

I'll get you for that Steven. . . . I think 15 + shaded balls is quite enough thanks!!! :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on February 01, 2014, 05:18:13 AM
Go get him Bev.   :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 01, 2014, 05:47:30 AM
 :knight:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: liz on February 01, 2014, 09:29:34 AM
Practice does make perfect Bev!   :flowers: :flowers: :flowers:   You got better and better each time!  :flowers: :flowers: :flowers:
I lost track how many balls I messed up!   :whistle:
-Liz
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 01, 2014, 10:58:29 AM
 :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on February 01, 2014, 01:36:39 PM
Want to borrow my  :knuppel2: Bev?   ::)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Steven on February 01, 2014, 01:58:24 PM
 :whistle: sorry...  too subtle probably, I was just encouraging practice... :fight: this is like bringing a knife to a gun fight :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on February 01, 2014, 02:54:15 PM
Want to borrow my  :knuppel2: Bev?   ::)

Thanks Val, actually I was wondering if the enforcer might be around here somewhere. Steven hasn't met our enforcer yet. . . . .LOL!!! :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
 
Liz. . . I actually lost track too but I'm sure it was at least 15,  probably more of the darn things! And, "you-know-who" thinks I should draw some more!! I don't think so!!! :eek: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Steven on February 01, 2014, 08:09:01 PM
How do you feel about squares and triangles?  :whistle:

Enforcer! :hug: I'm a lover not a fighter! You guys circle the wagons pretty quick! :o
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on February 02, 2014, 03:27:51 AM
How do you feel about squares and triangles?  :whistle:

Enforcer! :hug: I'm a lover not a fighter! You guys circle the wagons pretty quick! :o
I d'know Steven,  haven't had to shade one over and over and over and. . . . :2funny:
 
Steven, perhaps you don't know the history or histrionics I should say, that went on when Val, Patricia, Sarah, Denise, Jennylynn and myself (to name just a few) all took the "Let's Draw Class" together. There was a lot of fun and teasing that went on and of course, Val would jump on every opportunity to point out an error in grammar or spelling.  Thus was the Enforcer brought in. . . somebody had to do something about her LOL! So you see, it's really not a matter of circling the wagons, it really a matter of giving you our very best  :nana:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: valweb on February 02, 2014, 08:28:09 AM
Well this is my first ever drawing of a ball.   I have never lifted any other pencil but an HB and that is to write with so Nolan you have a great task ahead of you to teach me. LOL   I have always thought that I can't draw and therefore have never tried it.

As for getting the ball round................another story.

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 02, 2014, 08:51:35 AM
valweb,

I was the same way and now I want to draw everything around me. 

You have made a good start on your ball.  Keep going.  In a year, you will be light years ahead of where you are now.

aloha

mea

You CAN do this!!!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: doina on February 02, 2014, 09:32:58 AM
You have done a great job! Congratulations! :clap: :clap: :clap: doina
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 02, 2014, 10:12:26 AM
Woohoo, Val W!!! You did well!!!! I started here a little over a year ago, and thought the same thing--can't draw. But I wanted to do a better job of painting, so cast my boat (I don't know, are boats cast? Have to ask Other Val) with Nolan and now I never paint. Just love drawing. So he 's up to the task! I'm glad I started here. Looking back, I think I would have been overwhelmed at other sites and 'methods.' I go to them now with some confidence and know-how. Well, we've all seen the evidence of your ability to paint, so this will be a a great new adventure!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jennylynn on February 02, 2014, 10:18:42 AM
yes very well done on your ball val w  :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Steven on February 02, 2014, 11:06:56 AM
Val  W! :clap: :clap: Nicely done, great gradation on your ball....  Roundness is but a state of mind  ;)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Steven on February 02, 2014, 11:13:20 AM
And Bev... I'm happy to be included  O0 It's all in good fun!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: valweb on February 02, 2014, 01:03:28 PM
 :thankyou: but I feel I need to blend it more?
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 02, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
If you want it to feel more blended you could just go over it all with your 2H pencil and it would get smooth as silk. But I think your transitions look good.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on February 02, 2014, 01:36:05 PM
Very nice Ball ValW.   O0
 
Bev, I just scream with laughter at your posts ... I just love them.
 
Yes, Steven, it is all in good fun.  We have such a wonderful time here as you can gather and to put your mind at rest, we are all lovers and not fighters   :hug: :hug: :hug:   just fun loving gals and guys.
 
Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 02, 2014, 02:35:35 PM
great start Val :clap: :clap: :clap:
Feel free to blend it some more. As Sarah says start with the lighter pencil and go over even the darker areas lightly, then gradually go darker until the blending is smooth O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 02, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
Here's my tonal chart.


Not sure that I show enough of a difference in the first three columns.

Maybe I need better pencils.  These are Pentalic (set of 12) from Beverton, OR, but made in China.

aloha

mea

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: liz on February 02, 2014, 05:54:51 PM

This is my attempt at drawing a sphere, something I hadn't done in a long time.  I practiced drawing circles first, then decided to cheat with a small plastic lid.  Emily and I used to play around and draw spheres and apples, but that was 2 summers ago when she was 10 and needed activities to keep busy.  I know it may look blotchy, but I'll keep working at it!
~Liz
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 02, 2014, 08:24:45 PM
Mea, you can't compare each column like we do with the first tonal chart. here each pencil is allowed to do it's own thing. What you do want however is a "full" range of tonal values in the "long" box for each pencil
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 02, 2014, 08:51:23 PM
Thanks, Nolan, that makes me feel better.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 03, 2014, 12:01:35 AM
Valweb and Liz I love your beautiful sphres, soft and really nice tonals. I just loved it with the Let's Draw Course, to see how that 2 dimensional circle turned into a perfect little bal...just by using some pencils and patience. That is till now the only drawing I did lefthanded again from that course, even I planned to do it all, and it looked great, but after that my health got worse and I depressed, due to not drawing or painting.

Mea nice tonal chart, I think you did a very nice job even you think your pencils are not that great. As these are the ones you use right now, it is just great to see for yourself what you can get with them, and when ever you buy some other pencils...just make a new chart for them too. I will make a new chart with my second set og pencils, just found those this weeke. Never used them even it is a great brand..love to try my hand on the chart with these.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 03, 2014, 06:36:56 AM
It's lovely Liz. Nice and spherical feeling! If there are any little blotches, you can just touch the point of your kneadable eraser very lightly to the blotch and it will pick up the extra surface graphite without disturbing the lower layers. If you touch it too deeply, you can just fill in the lighter space with one of your harder pencils like your HB.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 03, 2014, 06:43:23 AM
Thanks, Riya.  You made it very understandable - I need a tonal chart for each pencil set.  I should not expect all sets of pencils to be the same.

Thank you.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: liz on February 03, 2014, 10:06:55 AM
Sarah, Thanks for your suggestions re using the knead able eraser.
Mea, I, too noticed how different brands of pencils perform differently.  I hope to get the F-C pencils, but the Prismacolor ones from Fisher-Hawaii are working well for me.
-Liz
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: valweb on February 04, 2014, 01:57:57 AM
I worked on the 1st ball to smooth it out and then tried again with the second ball using a different set of pencils.  There is quite a difference in the two makes of pencils.   I would still like to get it smoother so will keep on trying.  I also need to buy a 2H pencil as I only had an H as my lightest.

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 04, 2014, 11:18:08 AM
getting there Val O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 04, 2014, 01:33:07 PM
Valweb your two balls looking great, love the shading and reflections, well done!!!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 04, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
Hi all I found this site approx 4 days ago,  yay! :yippee:

I am waiting on some art supplies to learn more about oils, so tried acrylic but ended up very frustrated with the drying out so thought I would try pencils.  I am loving this although I am rushing a little to catch up so I can have a go with a live class at some stage. 

I need to buy some better pencils and will go out later and get the Fabre castell ones, but for now I will be brave and upload my first attempt with the ball...

Hmmm maybe not, I will be back once I have read the forums on how to upload a photo   :blush:

Lisa  :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 04, 2014, 02:10:00 PM
Ok I'll try that again. 

I somehow managed to upload my photo twice  :blush:. 


I hope that worked  :sweat:

Lisa
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 04, 2014, 02:12:22 PM
 :clap:  :yippee:

Looking at it on here my shadow is on a lean.  And I think I need to smooth out some lines maybe?

Lisa
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 04, 2014, 03:03:31 PM
Good job Val W. And Lisa, I'll just tilt my head, then your shadow will be fine. I'm glad you're here and excited.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 04, 2014, 04:47:30 PM
 :thankyou: Sarah

I have now purchased some Faber-Castell pencils  :clap: although for some reason there is no H pencil?

Tonal charts done again now that spoon...
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 04, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
Lisa,

Don't you feel good getting these first exercises started.

Glad you got the pencils.  No H??? weird, I thought that was a basic one in most kits.  I have a 12-pencil kit and it has an F pencil. That was a new one on me.  Never heard of F.

You go, girl.  There is no stopping you now.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lidiya on February 04, 2014, 08:42:36 PM
This is my attempt to shade a ball. I worked on the first one, then tried again on the second one.
Great lesson, Nolan. :smitten:
All the best.
Lidiya.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 04, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
Lidiya,

Good work on your ball drawings.  You have a really good highlight on the second one.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 05, 2014, 01:09:55 AM
Lisa,

Don't you feel good getting these first exercises started.

Glad you got the pencils.  No H??? weird, I thought that was a basic one in most kits.  I have a 12-pencil kit and it has an F pencil. That was a new one on me.  Never heard of F.

You go, girl.  There is no stopping you now.

aloha

mea

Mea I either read or heard Nolan say somewhere that you could use a F pencil for an HB, I think that was right anyway.  In the first pencil lesson I think.  And yes I feel great!

Lisa

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 05, 2014, 09:47:00 AM
Well done Lisa, very good for a first attempt :clap: :clap: :clap:
Excellent shadings Lidiya :heeha: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: charlie07 on February 05, 2014, 10:59:33 AM
these are awesome. i still have to post mine. i'm still practicing though.  :sweat:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: charlie07 on February 05, 2014, 01:56:53 PM
Hey everyone my name is Charlynn, but feel free to call me Charlie are Char. I'm actually new here. The INTRO to Pencil Drawing is actually my first class taking on the site. I know I'm super late, but I wanted to post my sphere and maybe get some feedback. I know I can still work on it because I'm actually not that happy with my results. I've probably made a BILLION of these so far. I've been a little nervous about showing my work. I'm not really a drawer and this is something I've been really wanting to work at since I'm a graphic designer and all. I think it'll help with my career and things. And I also want to learn because I think drawing is AWESOME!

But enough talking from me.  :)

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/mizzcraziibabii07/SPHERE2_zps9f115002.png)
This was my sixth drawing. I though it was pretty decent.

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/mizzcraziibabii07/SPHERE1_zpse3168ccc.png)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/mizzcraziibabii07/SPHERE3_zps3225807c.png)
These two are my with drawing. The lower #8 I had used my finger just to soften it around where the lightest point was.

But I think I have a n issue with bring to get my dark to not to dark to light. Like the transition for dark to light with it looking choppy if that makes sense. Feedback is welcomed. THANKS!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 05, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
:bigwelcome: to the PB family Charlie

I must say that I think your shadings are lovely. The transitions do take practice, but a few BILLION more and you should have it well sorted ;D In the Onion and Garlic class (#3) I show how to get perfectly smooth shadings O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Cindi on February 05, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
Thanks Nolon, I just picked up my one soft drawing pencil and drew a picture after 28 years!!  Thanks for a Great start again!!
Cindi   :yippee: :thankyou:
(http://kjcmplantsandtrees.com/images/drawing-light500.jpg)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 05, 2014, 10:59:49 PM
Karen, Doina, and Lisa

You are all off to a good start with your garlic/onion drawings.

I'll catch up to you on the replay.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 05, 2014, 11:02:58 PM
Wow, Cha, you are catching on fast.

I felt like you when I began, now I love to show what I have drawn because I can see so much improvement.  Just listen and watch Nolan and you will marvel at how much you learn.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 05, 2014, 11:29:42 PM
good on you Cindi. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Now lets see some more drawings :whistle: ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 06, 2014, 05:43:52 AM
Did the ball again, and in compare with the first one I did lefthanded in 2013, I see a lot of improvement :heeha: .



And when comparing this one with the one I did righthanded for 'Let's Draw' I think it looks almost the same :smitten: ...I am so happy with this :yippee:

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on February 06, 2014, 05:56:41 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Wow, all you ladies are doing so well with the sphere.  Great work.


 :welcome:  to our Paint Basket family Charlie and don't be afraid to show your work for a lot of us are complete beginners.  We have members of all levels who are a great bunch of helpful guys and gals who are always ready to help and assist you when you need it, as are our tutors who are just the best.  You have definitely come to the right place to grow in your art endeavours. 


Cindi, I am so pleased to hear that you have started drawing again after such a long lay off.  You sound much like me although I had very little art experience and then life got in the way but now I have some "me" time and doing what I always wanted to do and just LOVING it as you will too. As I mentioned to Charlie above, don't be afraid to show your work, no matter how bad you may think it is, for you will receive constructive but kind critiques which will help you improve.  So come on in and have fun.


Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 06, 2014, 06:00:04 AM
I bet you are happy Riya. A whole new life opens up before you! You were my inspiration in Let's Draw. It's a delight to see that fighting spirit now! Your lefty is very well done.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 06, 2014, 06:05:11 AM
Charlie  :heeha:  Well done! Isn't this fun? Cindi, welcome! You are on your way! Just wait until you have an assortment of pencils. You'll knock our socks off! Your ball looks good. :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Cindi on February 06, 2014, 09:49:30 AM
Thank You for the confidance in starting over after so many years.   :thankyou: ::) :gl: to ALL!!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 06, 2014, 11:38:26 AM
the left and right handed drawings look identical to me Riya, you can do this :heeha: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: ImBatman on February 06, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
 :clap: Now that's a great transition to left-handed drawing Riya!

My (natural) right-handed drawing was worse before coming upon PaintBasket's drawing course a couple of years ago.
 :2funny:

Batman.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 06, 2014, 04:01:35 PM
Charlie,  :welcome: to PB. I think you have done a great job on these balls, they look just great :clap:
Cindi, good for you picking up the pencils again after all these years.
 Looking forward to see more of both your drawings :) :flowers:

 :smart: Noland, Thank you so much for the awesome and very engouraging comment, I think I will be able to do so...and this time I'll go on. Last year was hard, with so many hospital visits, health isues, this time nothing can bring me off drawing again. I loved these free glasses, and after the spoon and onions I'll start the Landscape Drawing Class...made possible by this awesome gift from a sweet Angle  :cloud9: :smitten:

Batman thank you for your wonderful comment, it is much appreciated  :flowers:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: MSWcrane on February 06, 2014, 04:14:42 PM
Riya, you are doing better with your 'left hand' drawings than I do with my natural right hand.
Great Job, you inspire me to do better   :flowers:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 06, 2014, 04:49:52 PM
Thank you so much for this great compliment, MSWcrane :flowers: I a so happy that I feel so much better after being so down last year. I think this year will be just fun and great, thanks to all of the encouragement i receive from all of you. :flowers: :1hug:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 06, 2014, 06:56:50 PM
Riya,

I had all I could to draw one ball - look at all the ones you did!

And they all look good!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 07, 2014, 04:54:00 AM
i'm a few years behind...but will keep going...thanks Nolan...classes great!!! :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on February 07, 2014, 10:49:00 AM
Hi Marie. . . .you are not really behind, and if you are, we'll wait for you!!! Sometimes, I think I'm so far behind that actually I'm in front  :2funny: and slow. . . .OMG am I slow. . . . .a snail could draw faster than I can. So worry not Marie, just join us and get in on the fun and draw, draw, draw!!!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: liz on February 07, 2014, 11:05:47 AM
Marie and Bev, I probably take the prize for the slowest!!!  ::)  I put away my paints over 30 years, then 'accidentally' found Paint Basket in summer 2011 when I started doing some art to keep my 10 yr. old GD busy.   :cheering: Then we began posting our art on this friendly forum!  :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:  Now I'm learning to draw!  It's like I was caught in a 'time warp'!  My art stopped on the PAUSE button and now went to PLAY!   :)


 :welcome: , MARIE from Liz in Blue Hawaii!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 07, 2014, 11:28:46 PM
Hi Liz...ghee i've got a hard time to figure out paint basket...i struggle to post my art on the forum... :sweat: ...think i was born BC...before computers....trying..any suggestions?
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 07, 2014, 11:31:59 PM
Hi Marie

What are you using to post,  as in computer?  I am using an iPad and and I found uploading an image in the actual posts I couldn't copy the embed number so I write it down and type it it. 

Have you been to the forum are for newbies?

Lisa
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 07, 2014, 11:34:29 PM
MSWCrane....please tell me HOW DID YOU POST THE BALL TO THE FORUM....... :'( :thumbdown: :help: want any  more faces to see my  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 07, 2014, 11:41:14 PM
Good Morning Marie,

To place your drawing on the forum, you have to up-load it first to your own gallery, after that you will see it next the other drawings on he indexpage of the forum. To upload the drawing into your post, just copy or write down the embed code, [smg id=......] and that should do the job.
Have a nice weekend, Riya
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 07, 2014, 11:47:58 PM
Hopefully what Riya has said will help otherwise click on here (http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=504.msg3998#msg3998) and it will take you to  Nolan's helpful instructions, hopefully I just read how to add a link  ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 07, 2014, 11:56:41 PM
Thanks for helping out Lisa, btw placing a link is not that difficult. When you are replying you will find in the 2nd row next to the icon of placing a photo in your reply, the little clobe, that opens a box for your link, just write down the address and after that it just shows in your reply.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 08, 2014, 12:02:33 AM
Ha ha  :blush: yep thanks Riya it was more the idea of it that was scary  :idiot2: and the forum help has heaps of helpful hints and instructions  :idea: which is great  :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 08, 2014, 12:12:08 AM
 :2funny: :idiot2: :crazy2: I am not that bright in the morning  :blush:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 08, 2014, 12:39:05 AM
Ha ha I am about to go to bed it is twenty to 10 pm in my part of the world  :yawn: :yawn: :sleep: :sleep:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 08, 2014, 01:38:57 AM
thanks im gone try uploading
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 08, 2014, 02:39:52 AM
 :2funny:
Think i did it....thanks for the brilliant tutorial Nolan....

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 08, 2014, 02:52:00 AM
I'm far from a  :smart: in art, but I going to persist and do the excersises. Thanks again to all the caring people on the forum forum for your help, and to you Nolan, for not want to  :fight: me for all the :confused: ....
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 08, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
 :yippee: You did it :yippee: And your ball looks great, love the great shading, Well Done, Marie!!! :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 08, 2014, 05:34:52 AM
Oh thank you Riya.... :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 08, 2014, 06:37:45 AM
Very nice Marie. Welcome to the Land of Pencil Pushers!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 08, 2014, 06:58:31 AM
Thank you Sarah... :blush:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 08, 2014, 08:10:38 AM
Marie p

Feel good about that ball, girl.  It looks very good well-blended around the main highlight.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 08, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
Thanks Mea...love the member input... :hug:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 09, 2014, 02:51:52 PM
glad you got the uploading sorted Marie :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

You have done a great job with the shading of your ball, well done - nice contrasts :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: MSWcrane on February 09, 2014, 05:36:42 PM
Mariep...  :'( So Sorry I was not online to help you out with posting your ball.  (was off for a few days, due to a death in the family)   Glad Nolan was around.    :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 09, 2014, 11:18:02 PM
 :painting: Thanks to ALL you wonderful artists for the positive response....i thrive, and i believe most people, trive on positive response... :smitten: ..must tell you, i tried to ghippo (hope you understand my Afrikaans/English) chopping on my pencils...didnt want to rearange their shop appearence...brand new and without scars....but it didn't work as well as Nolans chissel points...so there i sat the whole of Sunday afternoon and butcher my pencils :hang: !!!!!  Must say, I'll rather stick to Nolans instructions and get results quicker....
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jennylynn on February 10, 2014, 01:12:30 AM
marie nice job on shading of your balls  O0  this is a great site isn't it  :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 10, 2014, 05:34:04 AM
thanks Jennylyn. Agree....the  website is G R E A T...and the tutor, brilliant....
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 10, 2014, 10:43:01 AM
[This is A be, my garden engineer. He made the pencil eeper today....]
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 10, 2014, 11:57:06 AM
he needs a raise ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 10, 2014, 05:41:45 PM
Thanks for that tip, marie p.  Just showed it to my husband as a HINT for a Valentine present.

Tell Abe I'd love to have him as my gardener.  What a great guy to do that for you.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jillh on February 10, 2014, 07:59:52 PM

I had my husband make me a pencil holder,  but the pencils kept sliding off.  (a design fault :))
so I made my own using  presstik (blue tack)  I also put a colour on each pencil so I know exactly which
pencil is which.  I don't have to double check numbers anymore.  Saves time and my eyes.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 10, 2014, 11:29:44 PM
what a bright  :idea: well done Jill.  I may have to do the same or make the styrene (spelling?) one suggested in another post (can't remember who had that brilliant idea  :blush: )  I figure if I had to wait 10 years for a kitchen and nearly 16 to get lino on the hardboard on the floor in the kitchen, then I had better man up and do this one myself  ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Riya on February 11, 2014, 02:23:56 AM
Those pencilholders are just so  :smart: and having two sets of pencils like you Jill, one pointed and the second chissel, is even double  :smart: . I always endup with changing points to chissels and back again whilest drawing...not that great :thumbdown: , timeconsuming and so much los of graphite :tickedoff: My pencils shorten very quick, and I don't draw that much :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: MSWcrane on February 11, 2014, 09:54:45 AM
The $2 Pencil organizer made of Styrofoam in 15 minutes is in the Pen & Ink General Chat Section.  I also use two sets of pencils, one set in Chisel point and one regular set.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: richkay on February 13, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
This is my drawing of shading a ball.  I learned a lot about pencils and pencil sharpening.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: richkay on February 13, 2014, 06:21:46 PM
My tonal chart.  I learned that each pencil shade can is important in what they can do.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 13, 2014, 09:21:51 PM
great job Rich :clap: :clap: :clap:

I feel you can still blend the area where the mid tone and darks on the ball itself meet O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 14, 2014, 05:59:33 AM
Doing this ball is the best exercise of all Rich--I can't tell you how many balls I have done since the first a little over a year ago. You have done a good job with getting some good rich dark in there. Now a little more blending as Nolan suggests and you are off and running!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bev S. on February 14, 2014, 07:17:57 AM
 :clap: Way to go Rich. . . .congratulations!!
Sarah said she lost count of the balls she has drawn well, I think I've done more than 20 just this time around and I'm sure I did 20 more when we were in the Let's Draw class woohoo! And. . . .you know what Rich. . . I just finally got it right. But it is without a doubt, the very best exercise you can do and when you get it perfectly shaded, every round object you encounter from now own will just be a piece of cake.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Harald on February 14, 2014, 05:54:56 PM
My try. Harald
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Harald on February 15, 2014, 06:30:48 AM
My try. Harald
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 15, 2014, 10:20:29 AM
Hi Harald,  the photo seems a little unfocused (I checked to make sure I had my glasses on   :o  :2funny: ), but looking good otherwise  :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 15, 2014, 12:42:31 PM
looking good Harald, well done :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: richkay on February 15, 2014, 05:57:09 PM
I added more mid tones to my ball.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on February 15, 2014, 08:34:49 PM
Looks great, a lot more smoother between tones.  :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Harald on February 16, 2014, 12:06:21 AM
 :thankyou: for fine comments. The picture is taken with a mobil in lamplight. I think I`ll use a better camera and take the Picture i daylight in the future.
Harald
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 17, 2014, 01:12:40 AM
Sorry to say...I didn't like doing the tonal chart.....but.... :sweat:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 17, 2014, 07:33:33 AM
Mariep,

Yes, the tonal chart is like one of those necessary evils. 

You did a fine job - so smooth!.  Mine are always scratchy and blotchy.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 17, 2014, 07:47:28 AM
Thanks Mea. Everything in life is practice x 10000. Have a blessed day. :flowers:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 17, 2014, 07:53:37 AM
I've tried a 2nd time to shade a round object.....
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 17, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
Rich and Marie, very good shadings on the ball now, just the way you want it :clap: :clap: :clap:

On both balls however I see a lighter halo around the balls (where the ball stops and the shadow starts). Just fill in the halo so that it disappears O0

Marie, on your tonal chart - looking from dark to light on the top row : all is great until the HB block. This block is too light, so the H block has also ended up too light, making the lower half of your tonal chart too light through the following rows as well. Darken up the HB and H blocks and then "filter" that change through the other rows as well O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on February 17, 2014, 09:10:22 PM
I see what your saying Nolan...thanks, goining to correct it straight away and post the chart again
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on March 06, 2014, 06:53:08 AM
I foud the most wonderfull gaget today....an electric eraser....the brandname is DREWENT and the most handy tool I've ever purchased....10/10
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on March 06, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
they are handy O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Harald on March 09, 2014, 04:09:04 AM
My second try on this one I can see the improvement. Harald
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on March 10, 2014, 11:10:14 AM
well done Harald, you can still go darker on the shadow side of the ball O0 The more contrast you have on the ball, the rounder it looks
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Class Mac on March 20, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Eldest teen requested sketching today while the youngest teen really wanted to continue with painting.
So homeschooling this morning was Science Test, Spelling Test and Sketching!!!

Here are their first attempts at the ball....

Rachel's (Bluefire)

Ryan's

Both were using fairly textured paper. I think they are both going to develop very different styles.
Ryan at only 13 found this very difficult and just needs to be encouraged to practice!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 20, 2014, 09:45:19 PM
Looks like Rachel and Ryan are on the right track.  Will be fun for us to watch them develop.

Sites like Paintbasket really are a valuable teaching tool for home schooling.

aloha

mea


Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on March 21, 2014, 05:06:26 AM
 :heeha: Looks like Rachel likes her darks! I was always hesitant about adding the real darks...still am...a bit.  ;D Well done Rachel, but don't forget you need those intermediate values from dark to light to gain dimension. Great start.  O0 :clap: :clap: :clap:

 :heeha: Wow Ryan! You are not the only one to find this difficult. Yours has turned out far better than my first or third go! Blending is very good, just watch between the medium values and your lights. Just a tiny bit softer there and it's perfect!   O0 :clap: :clap: :clap:   

I still do these spheres as practice every now and then. Every time you do one...they get better and better....and so will your drawings.  :yippee:

Excellent start guys, you're both well and away!  Now....where's the homeschool teacher's one?......     :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on March 21, 2014, 05:16:08 AM
Well done Rachel and Ryan!!! :smart: :smart:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on March 21, 2014, 02:25:54 PM
superb shadings guys, you can both be very proud of these drawings :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on March 21, 2014, 03:39:03 PM
Everyone all your spheres are beautifuly done.

My husband also  made me a pencil holder. It is pretty big but it works better than the small I had made, i am now trying to use ut properly
,  I like all of your pencil holder they are a great help.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sarah (arch) on March 21, 2014, 04:15:29 PM
My son-in-law made me one like this for Christmas and sized the holes for both my Faber-Castel and my Tombow Mono pencils. It doesn't have as many holes as yours but works great for those I use most. Love that guy!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on March 21, 2014, 04:25:24 PM
 :smitten: that guy too :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on March 22, 2014, 02:59:04 PM
nice, now that you have a "system" in place you will see that your drawings will actually improve because you are working more efficiently O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on March 23, 2014, 03:49:54 AM
Yes i think so Nolan, i am getting the nack of it.   O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Fae on March 27, 2014, 12:00:22 AM
Hi Nolan

Love how you present this basic information in a way that is easy to understand and master ... after struggling in the drawing elective of my TAFE visual art course I was feeling inept and overwhelmed.  Now I  am slowly work through the line and shade templates and exercises and achieving small successes.  Brilliant, thanks heaps!   :clap:

Cheers
Fae
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on March 27, 2014, 06:03:15 AM
 :bigwelcome: Fae, stick with Nolan and you'll have no problems!  O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on March 27, 2014, 12:56:53 PM
:bigwelcome: to the Paint Basket family Fae and thanks for the kind words - I am just glad that the classes have been helping :cloud9:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: ImBatman on April 17, 2014, 11:48:07 PM
Happy Easter everyone

Rather than bring my painting gear with me to Bundaberg for my family visit at Easter, I brought pencils etc to get stuck into the Pencils courses.

Here is day one - the results of a day of drawing interspersed with heaps of annoying the crap out of my little Niece.
Stroke Exercises
Stroke Exercises
Pencil Tonal Chart
Pencil Tonal Chart
Beginner's Ball
Beginner's Ball

Batman.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: jennylynn on April 17, 2014, 11:54:23 PM
batman you have done abrilliant job on these O0  your strokes exercises are so neat, your tonal chart wow you have the tones spot on, and the roundness of the ball  :yippee:  awesome work so far batman  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on April 18, 2014, 03:38:08 AM
Well done Bman.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on April 18, 2014, 03:51:59 AM
Happy Easter everyone,
Batman you did great on the pencil drawing.  You will see it is a very well done course you will love it.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: ImBatman on April 18, 2014, 06:28:58 AM
 :thankyou: jennylynn :thankyou: Vall :thankyou: Danielle

I did have a bit of a head start - I have completed the "Let's Draw" course once and done about the first third of it a second time round, before losing the drive to continue. Easter has given me a chance to dive back in with the online drawing courses. I've paid for them all, and watched a couple, but just never pulled out the paper and got started...

Batman.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on April 18, 2014, 09:23:49 AM
Great pencil work, Batman.

I do the same thing when leaving home - bring pencils and sketchbook instead of lugging all the painting gear.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on April 18, 2014, 02:32:53 PM
drawing is something you can do anywhere, along with the pen and ink drawings :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: ImBatman on April 18, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
Thanks mea and Nolan. And it is a lot less hassle when traveling than paints, brushes, water tubs, mediums, pallets...

Batman.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Dorothyofoz on April 19, 2014, 12:53:15 AM
Here, here Imbatman. I only ever carry pencils with me when travelling.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Verpin on May 06, 2014, 12:06:23 PM
 :thankyou: Nolan. That was so good lesson!
My ball
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Aehvm7XbtJ0/U2lAZmPyUDI/AAAAAAAALHY/7ipDqhOgcec/s640/20140506_225640.jpg)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on May 06, 2014, 02:50:48 PM
:bigwelcome: to the Paint Basket family Verpin :clap: :clap: :clap:

You have done a great job with the shadings :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
The shape is off, but it's your first class, so I forgive you ;D
What you do want to do though is soften the line between the highlight and the mid tone O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on May 06, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
 :bigwelcome: Verpin!  Very nicely done, good for you, you're using your darks well.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on May 06, 2014, 05:00:09 PM
Verpin,

Welcome to the PB family.  Look forward to your doing things more exciting than a round ball.  I know, I know, have to do the basics first!!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on May 06, 2014, 09:17:45 PM
 :welcome: :welcome: :welcome: Verpin!!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on May 07, 2014, 05:30:33 AM
 :welcome: Verpin, nice drawing of the ball,  it is a fabulous course you will enjoy it. :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sherri on May 29, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
Well here I go - I am beginning the Pencil Drawing Course!!  My first lesson submission.  Feedback please.  Thanks

Sherri


Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on May 29, 2014, 12:59:45 PM
Great start Sherri. Don't be afraid to do a few more, you will find your shadings become smooth with practice O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on May 29, 2014, 02:00:39 PM
Great start Sharri, :clap: :clap: :clap:  you will enjoy the course.  It helps tremendously.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: sally13 on May 29, 2014, 02:12:21 PM
Great work Sherri, :clap: :clap: you are not gonna believe what you will be able to achieve doing this course, its so rewarding.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sherri on May 29, 2014, 03:00:30 PM
Thanks Sally and Danielle.

Nolan, I will do a few more to get the hang of it.  Thanks Sherri
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: scribe on May 29, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
Well done Sherri and Verpin. Drawing circles is always a challenge and you are off to a great start. :yippee: :yippee:

Peggy
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on May 29, 2014, 05:27:43 PM
Sherri,

I'll leave comment to those who have managed to make and shade the ball better than I have.

I think you are off to a good start.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on May 30, 2014, 05:35:12 AM
Great start Sherri. I've found doing these balls is what has taught me the most about what each of my pencils can give me, and has improved my ability to blend and shade dramatically.

This is probably the exercise I do most. It has also helped me immensely when doing shadings in my paintings.

Keep them coming, you're off to a great start, and you will seriously surprise yourself with what you will be drawing in a very short time.  O0    :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sherri on May 30, 2014, 07:20:19 AM
Thanks Val  I am hoping that the pencil drawing will help my paintings.  I am so looking forward to all of the lessons.  Sherri
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on May 30, 2014, 08:03:04 AM
Sherri,

My whole world has changed now that I have learned to draw.  Yes, it makes a tremendous difference in your being able to paint.  You saw the difference with your levitating spoon!!

You are off to a great start.  Keep it up.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on May 30, 2014, 03:45:12 PM
being able to draw will help your paintings immeasurably  O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Cmmorgan60 on June 14, 2014, 06:01:30 PM
Is there a photo reference for the ball on the web site?

Thanks,
Chris
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on June 15, 2014, 12:59:19 PM
we just drew the ball from memory Chris, but here is the ball I drew in class:

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: ncwren on July 09, 2014, 10:36:30 AM
Okay JennyLynn-you guilted me into this!  ;D
Honestly there have been so many awesome drawings in the gallery it's hard to not be involved!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on July 09, 2014, 01:49:34 PM
Nice ball Natalie, now you are following the drawing class, what an energy bunny you are.   :D :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: ncwren on July 09, 2014, 02:22:14 PM
I'm going to follow all the classes Danielle.  There isn't a medium so far that I don't like.  Although I do struggle with pencil work.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on July 09, 2014, 02:46:29 PM
great start Natalie :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on July 09, 2014, 06:39:58 PM
Happy drawing Natalie,  it is a lot of fun and you will fine it is more time consuming.    I do love drawing with graphite.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Juan Carlos on August 03, 2014, 04:28:49 PM
Hi everyone,

Giving a try on pencil drawing while I'm away from home. This is my very first try on pencils; it seems that it willl take me big time to learn this technique, but I'll keep on trying......Good luck to all!!

Pura vida!!

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on August 03, 2014, 08:27:04 PM
Your ball is very nice Juan,  the very dark line at the bottom should lighten as you go up and continue your shadding just a bit.  I also see some scumbling, when you make your lines they should follow the form of the ball.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Juan Carlos on August 03, 2014, 09:03:53 PM
 :thankyou: Danielle. Your comments are very helpful. I'll keep them in mind.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on August 03, 2014, 09:40:31 PM
Pencil drawing practice is a good use of your time, Juan Carlos.  Cheer!  Cheer!

You'll be amazed at how quickly you progress.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mariep on August 03, 2014, 10:58:21 PM
Well done Juan Carlos, keep going. Before you know  your drawing beautiful pics!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on August 04, 2014, 01:06:25 PM
Your tonal chart looks good Juan Carlos :clap: :clap: :clap: , just the bottom row on the left stays light for too long, so try and get a grading there.
Glad you have decided to give the pencil a bash :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: ncwren on August 04, 2014, 03:10:14 PM
 :clap: Juan
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Juan Carlos on August 04, 2014, 06:21:55 PM
 :thankyou: Natalie and Mariep!!

Nolan, thanks for your encouragment. I'll work out the chart to make it better.

Pura vida
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Juan Carlos on August 05, 2014, 06:07:06 PM
I'm sorry Mea, I forgot to thank your kind words!!!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on August 05, 2014, 09:24:39 PM
No apology needed, Juan Carlos.  T'was my pleasure to post a favorable comment on your good work.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: dnaleri3 on September 17, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
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Just started the pencil class. Used watercolor paper and not as smooth as I would have liked.
Kris
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: ncwren on September 18, 2014, 08:32:41 AM
 Nice blending Kris...in spite of the paper!  :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: scribe on September 18, 2014, 10:38:52 AM
Nicely done Kris and the WC paper adds a little texture.  :yippee: :yippee:

Peggy
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: dnaleri3 on September 18, 2014, 11:11:14 AM
Thank you Natalie and Peggy. It almost looks like an orange  :confused: . I still can not hold the pencils like Nolan does. Practice, practice I guess!
Kris
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on September 18, 2014, 01:03:11 PM
great blending work :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: dnaleri3 on September 18, 2014, 04:15:07 PM
Thank you Nolan.  I appreciate that. Encouraging that I am going in the right direction. :thankyou:
Kris
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Zilpa on September 18, 2014, 04:17:18 PM
Great job, if watercolour paper is what you have and you find it too rough, try using the other side of the page it is usually a bit smoother.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on September 19, 2014, 04:45:05 AM
Very nice blending Kris.  :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sherri on September 21, 2014, 06:11:41 PM
Way to go.  Looks good.  Sherri
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: tshow on November 01, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
Hello Nolan.  Just purchased a basic pencil course and watched the intro video.  I like your presentation, took a course a couple of years ago, and I'm looking forward to your instruction again.

Tom Show
las Cruces, New Mexico, USA
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Tania on November 01, 2014, 07:31:32 PM
 :welcome: back, Tom! Look forward to seeing some of your work!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on November 02, 2014, 06:50:46 AM
 :bigwelcome: Welcome back Tom!  :wave: So nice to see you again, I do hope you've been keeping those pencils sharp!  :knuppel2:   Looking forward to seeing your work again, you were doing so well. Wait until you see what Nolan has us doing now! I've never gone through so many rubbers!  :2funny:

Let the fun begin!  :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on November 02, 2014, 12:19:54 PM
glad to have you back Tom, you are going to enjoy the new classes. :thankyou: for the support
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mrsclaus on November 28, 2014, 09:38:50 PM
 :thankyou: a very concise and thorough lesson. Others would have left it out or skimmed over it, but this is just the hands on visual approach I needed!  :clap: :painting: :thankyou:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on November 30, 2014, 04:28:59 AM
 :yippee:   Glad you are enjoying yourself and the course!

 :bigwelcome: mrsclaus , that name just screams out RED!  :2funny: I look forward to seeing your work, don't forget to post it for us.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: NHC50 on November 30, 2014, 06:42:01 AM
Hey Tom good to see you back. I know you will enjoy these classes. Hope to see your work soon.

Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bryndis Sigfusson on December 01, 2014, 03:32:14 AM
Hi!

Here s my version of the ball. Learning a lot from this lesson.  :)


Bryndis
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 01, 2014, 07:39:57 AM
Bryndis,

Drawing that ball is one of those necessary evils.  You did well, but it looks just a wee bit pregnant on the right side (or maybe it was the camera angle).

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on December 01, 2014, 12:36:48 PM
off to a great start :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bryndis Sigfusson on December 02, 2014, 09:54:36 AM
 :thankyou:  Looking forward to learning more and more.... :yippee:


Bryndis
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Marsha A on December 07, 2014, 04:49:53 PM
Hello,
Marsha, from California. I'm glad I am not the only one that didn't like the tonal paper. The extreme amount of lead on the paper is hard to keep clean and not smudge.  :)
Hate to admit it but;  How do I attach photos??
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on December 08, 2014, 12:02:13 PM
you go to the photo in your gallery, then copy the BBC embed code - it has square brackets

then paste it into the reply
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Marsha A on December 08, 2014, 04:24:01 PM



Class homework, figured out BBCode with help from hubby. :1hug:

Marsha
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 08, 2014, 05:31:47 PM
Marsha,

Glad you  (and hubby) found the embed code.  Now we get to see your hard work. 

You are well on your way.  Looking forward to watching your progress.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Marsha A on December 08, 2014, 06:07:56 PM
Thank you, Mea. The funny part is that I am the computer guru around here and at my Mom's retirement center...lol I'm not telling her.

Marsha
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on December 09, 2014, 12:29:58 PM
great job :clap: :clap: :clap: especially with the tonal chart

You can still add some more contrast to your shaded ball O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Marsha A on December 11, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Thank you, Nolan.  I tried 2 more and this one came out much lighter, because I think I'm starting to understand the no pressure on pencils.  ;) 


I did the spoon class last night and I'm rather happy with it. I still see some things that need to be done. :coffee:


More later.
Marsha
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 11, 2014, 09:23:20 PM
Marsha A

Your ball and spoon look well done.  I love the spoon class, too!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Liana on December 11, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
Nicely done! O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bellarina on December 12, 2014, 04:50:44 AM
Good work Marsha
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: ncwren on December 12, 2014, 05:11:31 AM
Spoon looks great!  :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Marsha A on December 13, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
 :thankyou:  for your encouragement.  I'm enjoying art again.

Marsha
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on December 14, 2014, 12:26:25 PM
lovely shading work on the ball - usually you don't apply pressure, but right at the end you can apply pressure to get the darkest darks O0

your spoon looks great to me :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bill.King on December 16, 2014, 04:20:04 PM
My shaded ball, interesting and frustrating to get it right, what does everybody think.
Mark
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 16, 2014, 07:27:46 PM
Mark,

Good attempt at a hard task.  Shouldn't the left shadow be a bit smaller?

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Danielle123 on December 17, 2014, 06:18:55 AM
Nice start,  i agree with Mea the shadow on the left side is a bit long. Also it should be darker near the object.  One other thing you have to clean the outside edge of the ball because at the moment it looks like a coton ball, which would be great if it was.  Hope this helps .
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on December 17, 2014, 12:29:38 PM
great start Bill, well done :clap: :clap: :clap:
You can also still darken the dark side of the ball some more so that you get a slower transition from dark to mid tone. O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bill.King on January 01, 2015, 10:49:42 AM
Nice going girls keep it up.
Mark
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on January 01, 2015, 11:17:45 AM
My first attempt with the ball, but boy oh boy, it's not easy at all
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on January 01, 2015, 11:20:22 AM
My second ball, a little easier but still very difficult. :confused:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 01, 2015, 11:27:51 AM
Louisa,

Nice ball.  Yes, that's a tough exercise.

aloha

MAL
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on January 01, 2015, 11:58:37 AM
Thank you Mea, but no comment, it's not like you or did you give up on me? :confused:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on January 01, 2015, 12:35:18 PM
Just takes patience and practice....  ::) and perseverence.  :strong:   

As you add the layers keep the pressure light and build slowly.  :excercise: That will give you better gradations even though you just want to use the  :knuppel2:

 :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on January 03, 2015, 02:30:48 AM
Berries, tried hard
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on January 03, 2015, 02:37:09 AM
Sorry this is the 2nd ball
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mauriswiss on January 03, 2015, 09:04:53 AM

And i go on ... day 13

I love to draw :-)

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 03, 2015, 09:08:34 AM
Mauri,

Good job on the old barn.  You even got the window to look right.  Mine never came out looking that good.

Keep at it.


aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 03, 2015, 09:12:33 AM
Louisa,

Your ball and berries look good, but I am sure those with more experience will say the darks need to be darker.   Maybe the left bottom side of the ball needs to be just a few more pencil strokes rounder.

Otherwise, I'd say you have done very well.

aloha

mea

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on January 03, 2015, 11:39:24 AM
 :thankyou:Mea, much appreciated. I love it when you look at my art the way you do, it really help me a lot. Thanks
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on January 03, 2015, 12:23:41 PM
Louisa,

I know you are going through the same struggles I did, so I want my responses to be really helpful.  That's what made me better - when PB members took the time to walk me through to a better picture.

I know you'll do the same for others.

aloha

mea  (P.S. I may not always be right - but call them as I see them.)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on January 03, 2015, 12:26:21 PM
You're a star, all I can say and thank you.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Aniz Oniro on January 27, 2015, 07:23:46 AM
I loved that lesson ,during this lesson i did ball on the Wright side,than i did another one without video,how does it look?
maria
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on January 27, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
off to a good start Maria, your shadings are nice and smooth :clap: :clap: :clap:

You can still make the dark side darker, that will allow you to make the transition between the mid tone area and the highlight slower. There must be a constant and gradual change from the highlight area all the way through to the darkest area
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Aniz Oniro on February 03, 2015, 09:29:45 AM
 :thankyou:Nolan
first i have to buy pencils,till now i am using only HB pencil
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bellarina on February 03, 2015, 11:46:04 AM
Maria, very good especially with just one pencil hardness
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on February 07, 2015, 10:09:45 AM
Good on you Maria  O0 You'll find it much easier with the various pencils. Well done.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: alojzius on February 18, 2015, 10:44:34 AM
Hi
This is my stroke exercises.I have some problems because wrist is quite hard.
I know this come with practice.
 
Greetings

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on February 18, 2015, 11:17:32 AM
Alojzius,

Good work on the strokes.  It's good that you are starting with the basics.  You will see great progress.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: BDEddy on February 18, 2015, 05:58:18 PM
Actually that looks nice and controlled, good job Alojzius!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bellarina on February 18, 2015, 06:21:12 PM
Oh yes, I remember those lessons.  Very valuable.  Looking forward to seeing more drawings.  :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: alojzius on February 18, 2015, 09:08:04 PM
Thank you very much for your kind rating.I tried it on. :hug:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 19, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
very neat Alojzius, as good as you would want it to be :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on February 21, 2015, 06:21:16 PM
Well done Alojzius.  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on February 22, 2015, 11:04:45 AM
Well done Alojzius. :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bobthebuzzed on March 04, 2015, 03:51:06 PM
Trying to render form. To be honest, I find it really hard to see whether or not the drawing is working as a sphere. Does it look round or flat? And how do you learn to see if your work is popping or not? :confused:

anyway, ty in advance for any feedback.   :thankyou:

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 04, 2015, 04:17:07 PM
Bob,

It looks good to me, but I'm sure Nolan will say it needs some darker values closer to the shadow. 

Maybe it's the paper you used, but the shadow looks so much like a reflection.  (Could be sitting on a glass-topped table, right?) 

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bobthebuzzed on March 04, 2015, 04:33:20 PM
Thank you for the feedback Mea.

The original is darker in the shadow, so I guess my scanning skills need work, D'oh! I shall look into fixing that and repost. The paper is just regular printer paper and the pencils come from the dollar store... I think I really should get the pencils Nolan recommended. That's what I get for being cheap and lazy  :2funny:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bobthebuzzed on March 04, 2015, 05:25:42 PM
And here is the better looking version.  :)

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 04, 2015, 06:58:28 PM
Yes, Bob, that looks much darker.  Looks better.  As I recall, the shadow is supposed to gradually blur out as it gets farther from the object.  I'm sure that if that is not the correct information, someone will jump right in and correct it.

Keep going.  You are doing well.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on March 05, 2015, 11:52:27 AM
looks fine now Bob. Yes shadows do fade away the further they are from the object O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bobthebuzzed on March 05, 2015, 03:15:32 PM
Thank you Mea and Nolan both for the feedback.  :thankyou:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bellarina on March 05, 2015, 03:54:19 PM
Looking good Bob  :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bobthebuzzed on March 06, 2015, 11:14:24 PM
 :thankyou: Robin
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: songineverheard on March 07, 2015, 10:11:16 AM
Just found this website and tutorial via Youtube. I can't wait to get started, wish me luck!  ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on March 07, 2015, 10:21:04 AM
Song...

Welcome to paintbasket. 

Good luck with the Pencil Drawing course.  So worthwhile.  You can see progress from the very first lesson.

Look forward to your sharing your drawings with us.  We love to marvel at people's progress and take a trip down memory lane every time you post one that we did.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on March 09, 2015, 12:10:37 PM
 :gl: Song and welcome :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Sherri on March 10, 2015, 10:01:26 PM
Welcome Song - You will love this website.  I have learned soooo much here!!  Good luck and have fun!!

Sherri
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Nancy Miller on March 20, 2015, 10:04:32 AM
I did the intro course.  How do I proceed to the next classes?
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on March 22, 2015, 11:38:04 AM
:bigwelcome: to the Paint Basket Nancy :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
You can now either become a club member (http://www.paintbasket.com/paintbaskettv/online-art-class.php?class=pencil-club-503) or you can purchase the classes individually. You would ideally follow the classes according to the Lesson Plan (http://www.paintbasket.com/paintbaskettv/?stream=order&medium=pencil)
 :gl:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Anewradha on April 16, 2015, 02:04:55 AM
I just finished the introduction to pencil drawing. Wonderful experience. Thank you Nolan. Which should be my second class in pencil drawing?
Thanks Anewradha
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on April 16, 2015, 01:20:39 PM
Anewradha, I recommend you follow the classes according to the lesson plan (http://www.paintbasket.com/paintbaskettv/?stream=order&medium=pencil)
so the next class on the list is the pencil shading techniques O0 :gl:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: tshow on April 22, 2015, 06:25:52 PM
Greetings!  I'm returning to get more instruction from this incredible learning to draw website.    I'm doing a refresher, at the moment, but I'll be in the class soon.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on April 22, 2015, 07:13:51 PM
Tom,

Welcome back to Paintbasket.  I am new here since you last posted, I think.  I have found that learning to draw has given a whole new dimension to my life.

Jump in!

Look forward to watching your progress.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Bellarina on April 23, 2015, 12:51:55 AM
Welcome back Tom
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on April 23, 2015, 05:54:09 AM
 :heeha: Great to see you back Tom! You can help me with my drawing of boats....I'm trying to prepare for doing a few in various mediums!  :eek:     ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on April 23, 2015, 12:53:47 PM
welcome back Tom :gl:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: bpatvan on May 11, 2015, 07:35:07 AM
Hello Nolan,
I have just started and already love the way you can teach . The only thing that I have not been able to do is shading well. How can I get my drawing on the site so that you can see where I can improve my strokes and shade correctly.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on May 11, 2015, 12:55:48 PM
:bigwelcome: to the Paint Basket BP :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: Glad you are enjoying the classes so far. HERE  (http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=504.0)are instructions on how to add your artworks to the site.

The best practice for getting your shadings nice and smooth is by drawing a ball and a tonal chart O0 Do them often and you will soon see a huge difference
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: bpatvan on May 13, 2015, 11:53:25 AM
 :thankyou: I will practice more often now
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Class Mac on August 30, 2015, 11:02:40 PM
After encouraging the children all this time I thought I'd have a go. Seriously the talent has passed me by! I drew a circle and ended the lesson covered in black! Haven't been so grubby since I played in the dirt and got into trouble as a child :) I do have a problem with my eyes as they don't work together - many eye exercises as a child taught one eye to take over from the other so I'll be surprised if I ever get perspective right.  But I've made a start ;)



Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Zilpa on August 30, 2015, 11:19:54 PM
You have made a great start Jen, don't give up. The main criteria is that you enjoy what you are doing and have fun with it.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on August 31, 2015, 05:03:43 AM
 :heeha: Well, I'll say this... your sphere is rounder than my first one!!!  ;D    ??? Your strokes sheet looks better as well... are you sure you haven't done this before?  :confused:      Perhaps working with those two great budding artists of yours is 'rubbing' off!  :2funny:
Well done Jen, you are already better than you think.   O0 :clap: :clap: :clap:

Don't worry about getting a bit black....you should come try charcoal with me!!!  :tooth:      :faint:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on August 31, 2015, 01:19:33 PM
Great job and off to a flying start :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Glad you hopped in as well :clap:

Drawing is a skill you learn so just be patient as you draw.

One suggestion is to add more shading to the ball drawing. I can see everything is there and correct, but there are simply not enough pencil strokes. As you add more strokes you will see the ball take on more volume O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Class Mac on August 31, 2015, 02:07:21 PM
I was surprised that the shape turned into a decent circle, although I think it's still balancing on a point! More shading will probably sort that out too. I'm having problems getting to shade properly without pencil strokes appearing so will need a lot more practice... Those curved strokes were the hardest ones - it seems my hand prefers straight lines  ::)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on August 31, 2015, 06:32:31 PM
 :heeha: I'd like your hand Jen, mine prefers wobbly lines.  ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on September 01, 2015, 01:30:36 PM
as long as you use an even pressure and overlapping strokes you can make the lines disappear completely. Remember to use the different pencils to give you the correct tonal value. It's only for the darkest darks that you have to start adding extra pressure O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Class Mac on September 01, 2015, 03:52:06 PM
Thanks for the tip Nolan. I'll keep at it !
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Annie. on October 04, 2015, 08:34:31 AM
Here is Ginger's ball:

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on October 04, 2015, 08:59:06 PM
great job Ginger :clap: :clap: :clap:

I do suggest you draw lots of these balls - it teaches your eye to see the different tonal values. O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: GPeachy on October 06, 2015, 12:09:37 PM
 :yippee: Wow finally found the folders...... thanks for the comment. I can certainly see that the shading in my ball needs more work.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on November 11, 2015, 05:33:29 PM
Well, it's been a while since I practice the shaded ball, but I think I did pretty well.


Ooops - note a bit of wonkiness in the upper left corner.

So, whatcha think?

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lisafromoto on November 12, 2015, 01:14:17 AM
 :clap: :clap: should probably have another go at this too. Just wondering if it is the camera or if there is a white line around the edge of the ball between the ball and the shadow?
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on November 12, 2015, 08:00:29 AM
Lisa,

I read that there is a reflection from the surface below the ball.  It reflects back onto the ball.  Maybe I didn't do it right.

In the lesson, if you go back and look to the spot where Nolan had the ball on the green file folder, it had a green reflection on the ball - it was slight, but noticeable.

I was trying to get that effect since I had a white background.  Maybe my mistake was in making it too obvious should have been blended better.

Nolan - help here please!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on November 15, 2015, 12:20:41 PM
the reflected light would form a shading so you take the edge you have and fade it quickly towards the inside of the ball O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on November 15, 2015, 05:43:19 PM
Thanks, Nolan.  Now I understand it.  My shading was too much of a stripe.  I think I get what to do now.

aloha

mea

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Ribezla on November 18, 2015, 03:11:02 AM
Hi,
here's my ball from the pencil drawing lesson.

Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on November 18, 2015, 07:34:32 AM
Carlotta,

Excellent.   The 3-D effect is so real!!   And it is so perfectly round!!!

If there were a Hall of Fame for ball drawings, this would have to be there.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Ribezla on November 18, 2015, 08:20:49 AM
Thank you Mea. I am surprised too, that I could draw such a nice spherical shape by hand.  ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on November 18, 2015, 11:15:32 AM
beautifully shaped and shaded ball :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Zilpa on November 19, 2015, 01:10:34 AM
Well done, this is a great start to your drawing.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: cluelessnky on February 12, 2016, 07:26:47 AM
Will you please make the arrows in the practice sheet template darker? I set my printer as dark as it will go and the direction arrows don't show up on my paper. Thank you.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on February 14, 2016, 11:26:34 AM
will see what I can do for you and add the darker lined version to the Resources area of the video O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Alice L Lemke on July 19, 2016, 06:09:29 AM
It's been 2.5 years since I watched you first put this video up and I finally got around to watching the whole thing. I'm so impressed! You taught us things that I never learned in high school or college. No one ever took the time to show us how to sharpen a pencil or go through stroke exercises. I love your supply list, it's so complete and I was able to order everything from Merriartist.com for my daughter.

I even used your design for a pencil holder and made one similar out of styrofoam and duct tape. It works swell!


Thanks for a wonderful lesson. I'm recommending your drawing lessons to everyone now.

-Alice-
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on July 19, 2016, 07:03:50 AM
Thanks for posting this, Alice.  I am going back and watching that video again.  So important to review the basics periodically.

I agree. I am living proof that someone who could not draw an  acceptable stick figure can draw if given the right instruction!  Paintbasket drawing lessons have made a new person out of me.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Kathysutterlin on July 19, 2016, 07:05:35 AM
 :clap: Great idea for your pencils, Alice. I also like those smiley mugs.  ;D You have a fun work station.  O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on July 26, 2016, 02:18:02 AM
as they say - no matter how good you get or how much you know, they is always more to learn. I also learn new things every single day O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: juliebullie on September 05, 2016, 12:04:01 PM
Loving my 'Introduction to Pencil' class! Would love critiques on my latest homework.  :thankyou:

(http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?action-media;sa=media;in=25445;preview)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on September 05, 2016, 02:08:39 PM
:bigwelcome: to the PB family Julie, post your work from the class here and we will give you feedback :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: juliebullie on September 05, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
I thought I did, but I guess I don't know how. Search help with no luck.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on September 05, 2016, 03:18:53 PM
 :wave: Juliebullie,

You'll find the information here....

http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=504.0 (http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=504.0)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on September 05, 2016, 03:19:52 PM
Just holler  :yippee:   if you need any further help!  ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: juliebullie on September 05, 2016, 03:22:25 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on September 05, 2016, 03:36:51 PM
The BBC code you need to copy looks like this [smg id=xxxxx] the x's are where the number will be. Click on the BBC Code and it will highlight, then copy and paste it in your post. Make sure you include the square brackets.

You will find the code below your photo in the gallery.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: juliebullie on September 05, 2016, 03:56:23 PM
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on September 05, 2016, 04:48:00 PM
Hey, Julie bullie, Welcome to the Paint basket.

Nice work - both round and shiny!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on September 06, 2016, 03:27:52 AM
 :yippee:   Way to go julie!!!!  O0   You've loaded the photo perfectly!   :clap: :clap: :clap:

Beautiful Christmas balls!!! Excellent start!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: juliebullie on September 06, 2016, 04:51:00 AM
Thanks Mea and Val! I can't believe how much i've learned already. I use to be a Potter, and making something flat on paper come alive is a lot different then shaping clay :)

Julie
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Kathysutterlin on September 06, 2016, 04:57:00 AM
 :heeha: Great work on the reflective balls, Julie. I had to look twice as I first thought they were the photo. :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: juliebullie on September 06, 2016, 12:51:21 PM
 :thankyou: Kathy! Such encouragement! I think i'll go draw  :blush:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on September 08, 2016, 02:32:43 AM
wow, great job, it looks like a photo, well done :congrats:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: juliebullie on September 08, 2016, 09:34:49 AM
Thanks, Nolan!

Julie
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: TeresaM on September 09, 2016, 01:05:22 AM
Great job Julie
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: RebecaM on September 27, 2016, 03:32:08 PM
Hello! here is my ball exercise, please let me know what you think
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: juliebullie on September 27, 2016, 03:42:49 PM
Wow! Awesome job Rebeca!!!!!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Kathysutterlin on September 27, 2016, 03:49:14 PM
 :heeha: Wow, I think it is perfect, Rebeca.  :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on September 27, 2016, 04:13:39 PM
Wow, Rebeca, it looks very professionally done.  You did a great job on the white paper reflection at the bottom right.  I always forget that.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: RebecaM on September 30, 2016, 04:29:28 AM
Julie, Kathy, Mea, thank you very much for your positive feedback! :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on September 30, 2016, 06:04:09 AM
 :heeha: Top of the class!!! Best one yet  O0   Brilliant Rebeca...guess I'd better start practicing again!  :whistle:     ;D
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: RebecaM on September 30, 2016, 11:34:24 AM
Thank you so much for your appreciation, Val! I wish you all the best with drawing/painting!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: TeresaM on October 02, 2016, 03:55:56 AM
Excellent  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: RebecaM on October 04, 2016, 12:56:39 PM
 :thankyou: very much, TeresaM!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on October 05, 2016, 08:20:18 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Excellent shading of the sphere Rebeca.  Looking forward to viewing more of your work.   Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: RebecaM on October 08, 2016, 05:04:31 AM
Thank you very much, Patricia! :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on October 18, 2016, 03:30:05 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Julie, I have just seen your reflective balls too and they are also so well done. 


Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Aniz Oniro on October 23, 2016, 11:41:16 AM
Rebeca i saw your ball-you did exellent work,fantastic shading-best of the bests :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: dennis on October 23, 2016, 12:34:22 PM
Excellent Rebeca I couldn't have done it better myself  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on October 24, 2016, 12:25:40 PM
fantastic - perfect shading work :congrats:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: RebecaM on November 04, 2016, 10:15:31 AM
Thank you very much for your kind words, Aniz Oniro, Dennis, Nolan! I am very happy you liked my drawing :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Gail Tuit on November 05, 2016, 09:37:52 PM
Thank you for a very helpful introduction to drawing ! I learned lots !
Gail
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: KathyKuz on November 06, 2016, 07:27:51 AM
Rebeca: Great job drawing the ball.  Goods hading.  :yippee:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: RebecaM on November 07, 2016, 04:25:27 AM
 :thankyou: Kathy!
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: alojzius on December 14, 2016, 02:09:48 PM
Hello
This is my first attempt to this lesson

greetings from Slovenia  :)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Kathysutterlin on December 14, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
 :bigwelcome:  Welcome Alojzius. Your pencil strokes are nice and even.  :clap: You are beginning on an exciting journey here at Paintbasket. I started  in February 2016 with the "Let's Draw" course. I am amazed at what I have learned with these wonderful instructors and forum members. I look forward to seeing your work and watching you grow.   ;)
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 14, 2016, 08:46:18 PM
Aloha, Alojzius - greetings from Hawaii.  Welcome to the wonderful world of Pint Basket.

It is good that you started with drawing lessons.  It'll give you a good foundation.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on December 15, 2016, 01:48:39 AM
(http://www.paintbasket.com/members/Smileys/webby/welcome.gif)  to the Paint Basket family Alojzius. You are off to a great start with your drawings

 :gl: with the rest O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Steve Weatherwax on December 16, 2016, 03:04:30 PM
 :welcome:, Alojzius! That's great practice for the hatching you will do  later.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: alojzius on December 17, 2016, 04:56:57 AM

Nolan Thank you for words of encouragement and of course everyone else. :hug:
Continue with the other exercises. :painting:
Greetings
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on December 17, 2016, 04:30:22 PM
A warm  :welcome:  to our Paint Basket family Alojzius.  Your stroke exercises are very well done and I am looking forward to seeing your drawings.


Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on December 18, 2016, 03:32:25 PM
 :bigwelcome:   Hello Alojzius!  Great work on your strokes, so nice and neat.  O0 You are going to really excel in the drawing lessons. Looking forward to seeing your progress.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Zilpa on December 19, 2016, 12:01:53 PM
You are off to a great start.  :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lindyloulouuni on August 08, 2017, 10:17:39 PM
I have been trying to add a photo of my strokes but I can't find where to attach them
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on August 08, 2017, 11:26:03 PM
Lindy,

We all went through this stage of trying to figure out how to get started.

Here's the URL that explains it all.  http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=504.0 (http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=504.0)

Ask if you have trouble doing it.  We're always here to help.

Looking forward to seeing your work.

Welcome aboard.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lindyloulouuni on August 09, 2017, 11:26:16 PM
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lindyloulouuni on August 09, 2017, 11:48:24 PM
This one I did last week from another youtube tutorial.
This one I did today from a tracing that I had done.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on August 10, 2017, 03:44:22 AM
your stroke exercise looks good Lindy :clap: :clap: :clap:

You can however still add more contrast to your pear drawings.  What I suggest you do is practice drawing a sphere - it sounds easy but it takes a lot of practice to draw it correctly O0

TIP - just paste in your smg code where you want the pic to appear - no need to click the image button first. The system takes the smg code and adds the rest for you O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on August 10, 2017, 06:25:50 AM
Ah, Lindy.  Good for you.  Now we can see your work.

So happy Nolan was able to comment right away.  His advice is always so helpful.

Once you get comfortable using the very dark values, you will see a big difference.  Keep thinking "dark against light."

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Happychappy on August 10, 2017, 01:01:19 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Good start Lindy.   Patricia
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lindyloulouuni on August 10, 2017, 01:39:21 PM
Thank you Nolan, I was going to start with a sphere, the upright pear was what I traced from a colouring YouTube tutorial from someone else but I felt I wasn't ready. The sideways pear was from a different one entirely and I was just following him. But I will do a sphere. I have downloaded all the free ones that pop up on your homepage so far and once I master the pencils then I will try something else and if I find the pencil easiest for me then I will stick with it.
Thank everybody else for your comments I was one of those who thought she could not draw to save herself, went to an art group here in Monto,Queensland,Australia with colouring pages and got good comments about the colours used and then went YouTubing for tutorials found a few then got this one that I really like.
I am going to keep on at it and friends in the art group are liking what I am doing as well.
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on August 13, 2017, 02:16:35 PM
 :gl:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Lindyloulouuni on August 17, 2017, 09:56:25 PM
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: mea hamo pena on August 17, 2017, 10:11:00 PM
Lindy

The sphere is a good place to start with practicing values.  You've done a good job on the lights, but you have to go to the much darker values too.  Place your sphere next to the reference and see where the really dark area is.

You are making progress,  Stick with it.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Mysti Vale on August 18, 2017, 01:30:36 AM
Lindy,  Excellent sphere!   :clap:
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: nolan on August 20, 2017, 01:58:26 PM
good start Lindy :clap: :clap: :clap:
Now keep building up the tonal values like Mea suggested and you will see the ball will appear rounder and rounder O0
Title: Re: 1 Introduction to Pencil Drawing
Post by: Val on August 26, 2017, 01:34:10 AM
Late to the party again!  :doh:     ;D

Hi Lindy, one slight suggestion to add... try to make your strokes follow the shape of the sphere. Off to a great beginning.  :clap: :clap: :clap: