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Watercolour Painting => Watercolour Colour Mixing Questions => Topic started by: pappy on March 20, 2013, 07:49:46 PM

Title: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: pappy on March 20, 2013, 07:49:46 PM
I just made a watercolor mixing chart. If you select a color then go across then up. You'll find the two colors I mixed to get the color. Only spent about 2 hours on it  :D ... Didn't think it would take that long.  :)

Maybe this will get other new members to make up their chart  ;) mixing, mixing and more mixing because it's about the color and getting the color you want :) something like that...

Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Happychappy on March 22, 2013, 12:35:38 PM
A real time saver Pappy.  When you are wanting a particular colour, you will be able to see what to mix to get it in a second. Excellent.  Patricia
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Val on March 22, 2013, 04:41:48 PM
 :clap: Good job Pappy.
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: scribe on May 23, 2013, 04:11:46 AM
This was a great idea. I tried it using the colors Dennis has in his palette. It gives me a rough idead of what I need to mix. Thanks for the idea.
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: jennylynn on May 23, 2013, 07:18:15 AM
well done pappy  O0 great idea thanks for posting  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: May lynn on June 24, 2013, 12:29:52 AM
Dear Pappy;
I have just purchased a 'Magic Palette' Color Mixing Guide.
They are made by Dee Solin a small manufacturing company in the US.
They employ  disable persons.  Their artists products can be purchased online or
in many Art shop.  You may want to support this companies effort to give gainful
employment to many.    I purchased the large 800 + color mixing chart, but, they
also make smaller versions. Check them out.
May lynn
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Daisyblue77 on June 24, 2013, 03:11:04 AM
A super idea Pappy.  Another great tool to use in conjunction with the Color Buster. 
Thanks for sharing.   :)
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Maryna on June 24, 2013, 04:18:09 AM
The Colour Buster is more for Acrylic and Oils in my opinion.

Dennis did a class on colour mixing and the colour wheel, if you haven't seen it, it is a must as it is obviously applicable to watercolors.


Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 07, 2016, 07:37:36 AM
I am  working on the color mixing chart from watercolor lesson 6. I'm finding that my equal mixes of viridian and the two reds turn out as gray tones rather than the nice purples Dennis gets. I've remixed them a number of times but still don't get the purples. Is this because of the type of paint I have? I am using the Winsor & Newton Cotman. Though it is not the artist grade they make, I was of the understanding that is was a high quality product.

Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Annie. on May 07, 2016, 08:20:37 AM
Could be.  Artist and student grades are different when you do more than painting out of the rubes. 

I was very frustrated when I started learning how to mix oil colours.  I was about to give up before I even did the "First Tulip' but a friend gave me a few partly empty tubes of artist grade oils.  Enough to get started.  Her advise was buy less but always artist grade.  I was happy enough with them that I completed my first painting.

I buy a bran called M. Graham.  It costs 30 to 50% less than W&N.  Many professional artists used them here and many are switching.  Professionals say the colours are of equal quality.  I tried both and I like the creamier texture of the M Graham.  The art stores  have full stock of M Graham and it is their best seller in oil and WC... but not acrylic where their best sale is Golden.  They don't say that W&N are not good, just that they are no better but overpriced. 

Maybe a local phenomena.   Does anyone else use M Graham?
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 07, 2016, 08:34:58 AM
 :thankyou: Annie for your response. I was suspecting that may be the problem. I have not seen M. Graham in the stores. I will look for it online. I agree, I'd rather have fewer tubes but of better quality.  O0
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Val on May 08, 2016, 02:26:30 PM
I have painted with Cotman, quite a few of the lessons in my gallery were painted with Cotman. The only difference I found between them and the artist W&N was the Cotman colours were not as vibrant.

You may have to play about with them a bit more to acquire the colour you're after.... but it can be done. It's just a matter of varying the mix a little, one way or the other.  O0
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 08, 2016, 04:25:49 PM
I have painted with Cotman, quite a few of the lessons in my gallery were painted with Cotman. The only difference I found between them and the artist W&N was the Cotman colours were not as vibrant.

You may have to play about with them a bit more to acquire the colour you're after.... but it can be done. It's just a matter of varying the mix a little, one way or the other.  O0

 :thankyou: Val for expressing your experience with the Cotman. I have decided to do just as you suggested and then replace my colors with artist grade as I use up what I have. :painting:
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Annie. on May 08, 2016, 06:10:58 PM
I am certain Val is correct.  Student grade are probably just not as concentrated/intense as artist paint.

Maybe mine were to old, they were given to me.  They were very 'faint' and what was very difficult for me was that they would separate on the palette almost as soon as I mixed them.. including some straight out of the tube.

Then someone gave me a few left over tubes of W&N artist grade to try (because the artist had switch to another bran and never emptied those tubes; and did not want me to quit prematurely).  I decided to accept the tubes and try one last time while being encourage to tgive WC a try by a few PB members.  I used those to do the cosmos and was very pleased with the results.

The N&W rubes are empty now and I had replaced them with artist grade but a different bran as explained before. 

So replacing them as you go is a good choice.  It won't be so expensive if you buy one at the time.
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 08, 2016, 09:38:07 PM
I am certain Val is correct.  Student grade are probably just not as concentrated/intense as artist paint.

Maybe mine were to old, they were given to me.  They were very 'faint' and what was very difficult for me was that they would separate on the palette almost as soon as I mixed them.. including some straight out of the tube.

Then someone gave me a few left over tubes of W&N artist grade to try (because the artist had switch to another bran and never emptied those tubes; and did not want me to quit prematurely).  I decided to accept the tubes and try one last time while being encourage to tgive WC a try by a few PB members.  I used those to do the cosmos and was very pleased with the results.

The N&W rubes are empty now and I had replaced them with artist grade but a different bran as explained before. 

So replacing them as you go is a good choice.  It won't be so expensive if you buy one at the time.

Yes Annie. I was thinking, too, that it would be easier on the budget to replace my paints with the artist tubes one at a time. I did look into the M. Graham online. The prices are very good on dickblick.  ;)
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Annie. on May 09, 2016, 06:47:18 AM
That is where I buy my art supply, online.  The company is very customer service oriented.  They always have some kind of promotion.

I often go to the US, so I put in an order and had it delivered to a friend house and pick it up when I visit.  It is worth because I buy a lot of acrylic supply for my daughter.  We get the acrylic by the tub.... not tube!

Good luck!
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 09, 2016, 10:49:02 AM
  We get the acrylic by the tub.... not tube!

 :heeha: Are you serious, Annie??? You buy your acrylic by the tub?? Wowser, That's a lot of Painting  :painting: :painting:
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Annie. on May 09, 2016, 01:30:05 PM
Sure wish I was kidding... this is my daughter's current supply.  But it is a special case  O0
On the other hand, I have primary colours, viridian, ochre and sienna... plus Ti white for oils for me. All smallest possible tubes .
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 09, 2016, 02:28:18 PM
 :heeha: Yikes Annie!!! you and your daughter are serious about your art!!! Fun, fun, fun!  :yippee:
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Val on May 09, 2016, 02:41:38 PM
 :eek: Holy Guacamole!!! That's a store!!!  :heeha:
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Annie. on May 09, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
Let's be clear:
The acrylics are hers.
The two studios are hers.
The tubs are not for sale.  Sorry Val, they won't fit in PJ anyway.
I have to return to work in July to buy the art supply.
and
I have a tiny tiny corner of her studio, and minimum little tubes of oil and mostly donated wc tubes.  Brushes are her discarts.  I steal her canvasses...

She paints daily, all paintings are different.  But very rarely she accepts to part from her art despite offers from buyers.  Occasionally gives a painting as a gift. 

I think it is time to market her but would need someone to give an opinion on her chances of success... maybe a few prints would cover part of the cost of the supply.   Sometime I felt that I understand Theo van Gogh...

Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: BeaSue on May 22, 2016, 07:36:59 AM
Annie, does your daughter have a website where we may see her paintings?
Title: Re: Watercolor Mixing Chart
Post by: Annie. on May 27, 2016, 05:33:04 PM
No,  I am not sure I would have the energy to do it and maintain it... but I really should do this.