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Title: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: linley.plester on December 09, 2017, 06:49:33 PM
 I read about this technique in a book on Contemporary Watercolour Artists. You paint your picture in Acrylic or Gouache and then wash over it with India Ink. Once the ink is dry, you then put the whole painting under the tap to wash off the excess ink.
You then repaint the image at least in part. The ink wash gives the picture depth and a wonderful deep black background. I can't show you most of my more successful little paintings because the website is refusing to upload them today, but here are two of them.
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 09, 2017, 06:54:37 PM
These look really nice, Linley.  I am going to try this after Christmas.  Too many "to-do" projects to get to it any earlier.

Thanks for sharing.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: Happychappy on December 10, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
Interesting Linley, thanks for sharing.   Patricia
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: linley.plester on December 10, 2017, 04:43:52 PM
I thought you might be interested Mea. When you try it, remember to paint the gouache really thickly, and remember you have to re-apply paint afterwards. I thought my first efforts were failures because the image all but disappeared after the ink wash, but decided to persist. After I had researched a little more I realized that having to repaint the image was standard procedure,lol. Hope you will try it too, Patricia.I ALSO FORGOT TO MENTION that once the ink is dry, you then put the whole painting under the tap to wash off the excess ink.
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 10, 2017, 09:51:26 PM
OK, Linley. I'll read this thread three more times before I attempt to do it to be sure I have it right.  Am really excited about trying it.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: linley.plester on December 10, 2017, 11:19:54 PM
Yes, sorry everyone about the omission in the first set of instructions. I've now modified it so that washing off the excess ink is included. It's a fairly vital piece of information. :2funny:
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: Bill76434 on December 13, 2017, 02:30:56 PM
So many medias, techniques and styles to try, will I live long enough?
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: Val on December 13, 2017, 03:40:31 PM
I love the brilliance and intensity you get with this technique. Beautiful job Linley.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 15, 2017, 09:06:33 PM
Linley,
I have time tonight and want to give this a try.  It looks like you did these painting on black paper or is that the India ink that is giving the black background??

If not, what paper did you use?

aloha
mea
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: linley.plester on December 16, 2017, 02:29:20 AM
In the main Mea I used white watercolour paper... various scraps of different weights. The India ink is responsible for the deep blacks.
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: robynann on December 16, 2017, 07:57:34 AM
Linley did you get this technique from that new book you bought? Just curious. I want to give this a go too. Love what you did!
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 16, 2017, 10:32:08 AM
Thanks, Linley.  I  did this on Strathmore black artist tile paper before I read your reply this morning.  I used Iridescent Paint instead of gouache.

I love how it came out, but I don't really think I did it the way I was supposed to. 

I will try again on white watercolor paper and use gouache and see the difference.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: linley.plester on December 16, 2017, 01:56:54 PM
The iridescent paint over black paper is spectacular. But why did you use India ink over black paper? Did you notice a difference in the depth of the black and the  the depth of the painting? I didn't think to use iridescent paint in combination with ink wash, lol. If I had I probably would have added the iridescent paint after the ink wash to touch up the gouache.
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 16, 2017, 02:17:09 PM
Linley,

The black was so intense on your samples that I thought you had used black paper.

The irridescent underpainting had been done a few months ago, so I just put the ink over the whole paper.  I honestly don't know how much difference it made because, as you said, it washed off.

I will try again on a white paper to see how black the paper gets from the ink.

The best part is the yellow pistil (hope that's what it's called).

aloha

MAL
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: linley.plester on December 16, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
Mea, it's amazing how much black ink washes off white paper, and yet the remaining background ink remains so dark. One YouTuber suggested actually rubbing the surface of the paper gently with a gloved finger. All I achieved was to rub off more gouache. :2funny:
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 18, 2017, 02:51:33 PM
Linley,

Here is my second try.  This time the paper was white watercolor paper.  I painted the paper in gouache, then covered everything with India Ink.  I must have used too much ink because it did not wash off the flower - left it black!!  So, I went over the faint shape of the flower with white gouache, then tried to paint it with a coral gouache mix with purple shadows.  Except for the gel pen that I used for my name (too big), I like this one much better than the first one. Nicer shape.


Still don't think I am doing this the way it is supposed to be done, though.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: Bill76434 on December 18, 2017, 03:11:19 PM
Looks good. Love the purple and the way the stamen stands out against the black.
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: linley.plester on December 18, 2017, 03:53:05 PM
Mea, there is no need to paint the whole piece of paper with gouache, although this is a nice effect anyway. The gouache is supposed to act as a resist so that the ink sinks into the white paper but doesn't sink into the areas where the gouache is. However I found that the very black Chinese Calligraphy ink I used managed to seep into the paper under the gouache or acrylic to some degree, which is why you usually have to repaint some of the image. I'm tempted to try the method with ordinary masking fluid as the resist.Using paint as a resist produces a kind of depth in the image that may not happen with the masking fluid.
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: mea hamo pena on December 18, 2017, 06:36:47 PM
Linley. 
I just read what I wrote.  Yikes, I only painted the flower with gouache not the whole paper.  DUH, what is wrong with me.

My gouache did not RESIST the ink.  It hugged it and held on for dear life.  If resist is the technique used here, then I'll go back to the irridescent.  That worked better.

I Will try again.  I love the look I am getting. 

Yes, Bill, the stamen really stands out.  Thanks for your comment.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: Val on December 18, 2017, 07:01:22 PM
I wondered about painting the whole paper with gouache.... I thought it must have been the flower you meant. Still...an interesting process.
Title: Re: InkWashOverGouacheOrAcrylic
Post by: Gita on December 18, 2017, 07:56:08 PM
Thankyou for sharing this technique, Linley. The conversation in this thread has answered already my questions.
Will try this someday.  :painting: