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Title: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 05, 2017, 08:08:23 AM

So here’s part 2 of my Mark Hopkins commission. George D Smith is the man who actually built the hotel. So they want a portrait of him, too for the hotel museum. Yes, another black and white photo - ugh!! They’ve said he can be more colorful than the first portrait.

So - any thoughts on background, suit and tie colors? I’m thinkng a cobalt or cerelean Blue for the background, a light gray suit and either a blue or red bow tie. Would love some of your ideas!!
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Post by: njnjgirl on October 05, 2017, 08:59:39 AM
My first thought was a blue background, but ultramarine, grey suit with navy tie....just my thoughts....good luck but I know you will ace this one.
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 05, 2017, 09:23:14 AM
I’m thinking now the ultramarine background might be best. So you’re correct, Mary Lou! A bolder color to compliment the green of the other one. And a navy tie with yellow spots and stripes
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Post by: KathyKuz on October 05, 2017, 05:08:54 PM
Sharon:  I do think you have another challenge. Can"t wait to see your process in painting this.
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 05, 2017, 05:26:35 PM
Thanks Kathy. I bought the 300lb paper today and sketched him. Tomorrow I’ll mask and will do the background this weekend. The hotel agreed about the ultramarine background (good call, Mary Lou!), the light gray suit and the navy and yellow tie. Just as before, I’ll take this one step at a time. Probably will do the clothing next, than the eyes and the face for last.
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Post by: Annie. on October 05, 2017, 05:49:48 PM
Blue suit always go, but research what blue was in fashion in the years this photo was done.

I will PM you the reason I am saying that.
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Post by: EmmaLee on October 05, 2017, 06:06:18 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this one in motion. I know you'll do great!
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Post by: njnjgirl on October 06, 2017, 05:00:01 AM
Can't wait to see this one started Sharon. 
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Post by: Val on October 06, 2017, 07:39:21 AM
Let's get painting!  :painting:
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Post by: dennis on October 06, 2017, 11:20:14 AM
 O0
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 06, 2017, 02:22:26 PM
 :thankyou: everyone! I so appreciate your support and enthusiasm for this project - makes me more confident to proceed. I'll post the sketch and masking tomorrow...stay tuned!
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Post by: Gita on October 09, 2017, 01:06:38 AM
I am very curious to see the process of this portrait, Sharon!
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 12, 2017, 10:19:06 AM

Mr Smith is sketched and masked! Next step - the background!
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Val on October 12, 2017, 02:38:24 PM
 :yippee:        :painting:     :cheering: :cheering: :cheering:     :painting:
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Post by: Happychappy on October 12, 2017, 03:58:22 PM
Sharon, you provide us with such excitement just watching as your masterpieces unfold. As I said before, it is like a puzzle, so darned interesting and I love it.


Patricia
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 12, 2017, 04:51:14 PM
 :thankyou: Val and Patricia! ANd I’m so fortunate to have all of you be open to my sharing these paintings step by step!
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Post by: linley.plester on October 12, 2017, 09:39:50 PM
Everybody else has said it all, but if I don't write something I won't get notifications as the portrait unfolds!  And I don't want to miss out. So: GO SHARON! My foot is tapping with impatience for the next installment.
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 13, 2017, 04:18:28 PM

You’re adorable, Linley!!
Here’s Mr Smith with the background color. I first put down a layer of French ultramarine, but it was too bright. So I mixed in indigo to the blue and put that down as a 2nd layer - and voila!!
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Post by: Win on October 13, 2017, 04:43:27 PM
Yay , I love watching your paintings unfold  :yippee:, Im sure another winner is on its way  :)
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Post by: linley.plester on October 13, 2017, 06:55:49 PM
That background looks like leather... the sort that is on top of Roll-top desks. Beautiful. :painting:
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Post by: Gita on October 14, 2017, 02:43:20 AM
Classy background, Sharon! I share Linley’s impatience, too. Looking forward to the painting’s progress...
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Post by: KathyKuz on October 14, 2017, 04:55:32 AM
Sharon:  The background looks good.  My favorite dark blue background in watercolor is Ultramarine blue and Paynes grey.  :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 14, 2017, 01:51:38 PM
 :thankyou: Win, Gita, Linley and Kathy! And I’m off to Puerto Vallarta Monday for a week so we’ll all have to wait to see how it unfolds!!
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Post by: Val on October 14, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
I’m off to Puerto Vallarta Monday for a week so we’ll all have to wait to see how it unfolds!!

 :whistle:   Really?   ^-^           
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 18, 2017, 07:36:18 PM
Yes really, Val! I'm working on some other paintings for a show I have on Nov 9th...hope to post one tomorrow that I've almost completed. I was missing PV so much - we had a rental cancellation this week in our condo so I took advantage of a free frequent flier ticket to pop down here. It's beautiful weather - the perfect place to paint! And I'll be all primed to work on Gerald when I return!
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Post by: Happychappy on October 19, 2017, 04:14:23 AM
Enjoy the break Sharon.    Patricia
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on October 19, 2017, 06:09:27 AM
Thanks Patricia. Is so nice to be back on the beach in my happy place!
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 02, 2017, 11:04:01 AM

Been working on Mr Smith from below the neck. Wanted you to see the latest. Next step is the face. Any suggestions on improving his outfit?!?
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Post by: mea hamo pena on November 02, 2017, 11:07:14 AM
Love the bow tie.  You can do this, Sharon.  It'll be great.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 02, 2017, 11:51:30 AM
Thanks, Mea. Having some family issues now so it’s been hard to concentrate on painting. Felt good to get back to this.
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Happychappy on November 02, 2017, 01:08:07 PM
Sorry to hear about your family issues Sharon and painting is really therapeutic and will no doubt help you to take your mind off things for awhile.  Mr. Smith is looking good so far.


Patricia
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 02, 2017, 02:14:52 PM
Thank you, Patricia...
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Post by: Win on November 03, 2017, 02:40:51 AM
Outfit looks perfect  O0.... Lots of Blessings that family issues get sorted asap.  :angel:
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Post by: njnjgirl on November 06, 2017, 06:04:38 AM
His bow tie is awesome.  Fabulous gray suit and love the background with it.   Wishing you the best with the family concerns.  :flowers:
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 06, 2017, 02:23:42 PM
 :thankyou: Win and Mary Lou! I’ll be posting the latest version soon. Been working on his face! Still figuring out how to handle the hair.
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 07, 2017, 12:22:56 PM

So here’s Mr Smith with face and hair. I’m really looking forward to any suggestions. My eyes can’t see what to do anymore!
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Post by: Happychappy on November 07, 2017, 01:21:50 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Another darned good job Sharon.  I wish I could offer some advice but I have been backwards and forwards looking at the original and your painting and can't see anything that needs tweaking. However, members with good eyesight will advise you if there is anything that they can pick up. 


Patricia
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Post by: TeresaM on November 07, 2017, 01:54:44 PM
Sharon you have done a great painting,  :clap: :clap: :clap:
My only worry is the shadow around the bottom lip as he doesn't have a lip separate from the shadow if you know what I mean. Plus I  would fade out the two shadow lines going down his chin,  they don't need to be so dark.
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Post by: njnjgirl on November 07, 2017, 02:13:42 PM
I agree with Teresa. Look at the photo he has a lip on the bottom and then a slight shadow. In the painting it's all shadow. soften the shadow and give him a very very pale pink lip to designate he has a bottom lip also I agree the two Shadows on the chin should be softened. However it looks wonderful fabulous job again Sharon
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 07, 2017, 03:05:00 PM
Thank you Patricia, Teresa and Mary Lou! And great call Teresa and Mary Lou on the shadows on the chin and under the lip and the lower lip color. He looks so much better without that 5 o’clock shadow! I know I can always depend on the expert eyes of my PB pals!! Thank you again!! I’ll send the photo to the client and will let you know what they think!!
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Val on November 07, 2017, 03:45:35 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:   A couple of suggestions apart from fixing the bottom lip.
 Lighten the smile line on his right side, just the hint of a shadow as in the photo.
Slightly lighten the two lines coming down from his right eyebrow.

To me, his hair just seems a bit too bright, I'm drawn there before his face. Would only take the slightest tint to tone it down just a bit.

He truly is brilliant, another great job colourizing from a black and white photo. Well done.  O0
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 07, 2017, 04:38:48 PM

Thank you for the great suggestions, Val. Of course the lighting has changed since its later, so the photo of the painting seems a bit darker. But I think those last tweaks made a big differences. What do you think?
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Post by: mea hamo pena on November 07, 2017, 05:01:31 PM
Sharon,

What a marvelous job you have done on this.

Your skills have doubled and tripled over the past couple years.

I have only two concerns. 

The shadow of the eye glasses on his face looks too distinct.  Is there a way to blur it a bit?   

I realize the photo shows him with what appears to be two eyebrows over his right eye.  But, it is driving me crazy. Can you blur that too - maybe it's a shadow from the frame of his glasses?

Regardless, the painting looks fantastic. Those teeth are beautifully done.  Look so real!

aloha

mea

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Post by: njnjgirl on November 07, 2017, 05:56:36 PM
Fabulous Sharon! His mouth looks perfect now....excellent job!
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Post by: TeresaM on November 07, 2017, 08:34:00 PM
Sharon that change makes a big difference, well done i know it's not easy to make adjustments with watercolours. Well done :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Neil Todd on November 08, 2017, 01:39:35 AM
I don’t do watercolours Sharon so it’s hard for me to comment technically but I can see and it looks great I love the way you take onboard the comments and make the improvements well done
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Post by: Gita on November 08, 2017, 02:01:22 AM
Great painting Sharon! Only one observation- the lips are a bit too reddish for a man.... what do you think?
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Post by: njnjgirl on November 08, 2017, 04:45:20 AM
I have to comment again.  I was looking at this on my phone last night.  Now today I am looking at it on my laptop and I have to compliment you Sharon..  The subtle wrinkles under his eyes and the slight line of his bifocals, well, just amazing work!! I think he looks amazing... and in my opinion, I would put the brush down.
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Val on November 08, 2017, 06:57:36 AM
 :heeha:   There you go! You've captured him. I would send a photo through to the hotel and see how they feel about it before touching it again.  O0
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 08, 2017, 08:01:05 AM
Thank you Mea, Gita, Neil, Mary Lou and Val! It's feeling good to put the paintbrush down on this one for now. I think you're right, Val - I'll let the hotel take a look and tell me what they think. Gita - the lips seem redder in the photo - in real life they show as a light pink. I want to retake the photo when the light is brighter here today. Mea - I agree, his eyebrows are odd...but that's what they are in the photo so I want to be true to what he looked like, unless the hotel tells me otherwise. Mary Lou - what's hard in a painting like this is scrutinizing the photo to try to find all of those wrinkles - although I tried not to add all of them to give him a little more youthful appearance! Neil - I don't know what I'd do without the PB comments - they're the best and I always try to do my best to incorporate them - they never steer me wrong! Teresa - making adjustments with watercolor can be so challenging! But I'm using 300 lb paper for these portraits - they're more expensive but I can scrub away to my heart's content in order to make those changes!

I'll let you know what the hotel says!! Stay tuned!
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 08, 2017, 11:49:07 AM
From the hotel:

Wow!  Looks fabulous!  Well done!!

Many thanks to everyone for your support and suggestions. We truly did these portraits together!!!
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Post by: dennis on November 08, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Val on November 08, 2017, 12:21:28 PM
 O0 never a doubt.  I look forward to seeing this one framed.  :clap: :clap: :clap:   
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 08, 2017, 12:25:05 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis and Val! The hotel is going to send me the frames they have in stock. I’m trying to convince them to let my framer create new frames. Hope they allow that. I’ve no idea what the frames they have look like!!
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Post by: Val on November 08, 2017, 12:29:59 PM
We'll have to wait and see..... I can feel those suspenders tightening again!  :sweat:
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Post by: TeresaM on November 08, 2017, 04:02:00 PM
Congratulations and well done as l know watercolour paints are thr hardest to work with you have done an excellent job. :yippee: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Happychappy on November 08, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Congratulations Sharon on another brilliant job. We are so proud of you.    Patricia
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 08, 2017, 08:03:27 PM
Haha, Val!
And thank you Teresa and Patricia! And since I learned watercolors first, Teresa, it’s actually the easiest medium for me! Which goes against what everyone says about it being the hardest! And Patricia - I give so much of my success to Dennis, Nolan and my PB Family.  No way I would be as good as I am without all of you!!
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Val on November 09, 2017, 01:23:39 AM
No way I would be as good as I am without all of you!!

 :heeha: There's those words I've been waiting to hear!     :yippee:    :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 16, 2017, 03:33:00 PM

And here's Mr. Smith framed!
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Post by: thegrindre on November 16, 2017, 04:03:19 PM
Amazing, just amazing, Sharon.  :clap: :yippee: O0
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Post by: linley.plester on November 16, 2017, 04:48:04 PM
Well done Sharon. He looks like he c :clap:uld just step out of the painting. Your clients must be so pleased!
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 16, 2017, 08:55:10 PM
Thanks Rick and Linley! And think the client is happy - she doesn’t show much emotion. But she sent me the payment today so that’s a good indication I guess!
Title: Re: George D Smith
Post by: Val on November 17, 2017, 05:34:23 AM
Some people are just like that.... but that's why we're here!  ;)       Excellent work kid!    :yippee:       :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 17, 2017, 07:34:27 AM
Thanks Val - and yes, we do balance out those with less emotions!
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Post by: linley.plester on November 17, 2017, 02:44:16 PM
Val, Sharon,  :tongue: They don't have less emotions... they either just hide them better, or have so many overwhelming emotions they haven't the extra energy to react to ordinary everyday pleasures.
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 17, 2017, 04:18:19 PM
I appreciate your comment, Linley. This person is always very business...and very reserved. But at least she likes my art!
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Post by: Val on November 17, 2017, 04:45:20 PM
 :think: Crikey Linley & Sharon, .... that sounds like me! I'm the most reserved person I know!   :whistle:
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 17, 2017, 04:46:48 PM
I don't believe that for a second, Val!
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Post by: Happychappy on November 17, 2017, 04:52:55 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:  Sharon, absolutely stunning framed.  You are really such a good artist and it is so encouraging for us to watch you as we derive so much inspiration from seeing what you can do.  We are so proud of you.  :flowers: :flowers: :flowers:


Patricia
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Post by: dennis on November 17, 2017, 07:03:05 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on November 18, 2017, 09:12:05 AM
Thank you Dennis & Patricia! And Patricia - my fellow artists at PB inspire me daily!!!
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Post by: TeresaM on November 20, 2017, 11:39:39 PM
Another great frame to go with an excellent painting. Well done