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Title: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 11, 2017, 06:52:09 PM
I just got the course and am excited to get started.  I will be posting my drawings here.  I am interested in digital drawing along with using physical medium.  I may do some drawings both ways.
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 11, 2017, 07:44:27 PM
My pre-course "before" tree drawing.  I am looking forward to drawing a much better tree at the end of the course.

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 11, 2017, 08:22:23 PM
I won't have the pressure sensitive tablet until Tuesday.  I figured what the heck, and went ahead and drew a ten minute digital tree.  As I was drawing, a face seemed to emerge from the trunk.  I went ahead and played that up, because, well, I don't know why.  It just made me giggle a bit.

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Happychappy on June 12, 2017, 04:59:23 AM
Mysti, I don't know anything about digital drawing, however,  I too, can see a face in the ten minute digital tree which you drew. Amazing how we can see things in abstract drawings too.


Patricia
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: mea hamo pena on June 12, 2017, 06:46:13 AM
Mysti,

Like Patricia, I am clueless about digital drawing, but we'll be happy to see what you can do with it.

I love your sense of whimsy.  Love the face and how you added a swing to the tree.

Keep posting.  You are going to be fun!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 12, 2017, 08:04:18 AM
 :heeha: Very imaginative Mysti  :clap: :clap: :clap:    Improving your drawing skills will compliment your abilities in your digital art as well. I think you are really going to enjoy and marvel your creations as you progress.  O0

Look forward to seeing your works. Have fun!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 12, 2017, 09:36:10 AM
Thank you so much for the encouragement!  :thankyou:  :smitten:

   

As you can see by my simple trees, I have a long way to go on this drawing journey.  Wow.  There are a lot of different erasers and uses for them.  Who knew?  I expect all of you did, but I always thought the pinks were good enough.  I know better now.   ;D
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 12, 2017, 02:11:21 PM
No worries Mysti, most of us had little to no experience when we started. As for how long it takes.... don't worry I've been here (PB) almost seven years and I'm still pokey!  ;D   I think you'll find you pick up on some things very quickly, and others... well, don't worry about them you'll get there.  O0

Yes learning new things everyday, makes it very exciting don't you think? Just watch you don't end up like some of us and join the 'artshopaholics' club!  :2funny:

Just keep having fun.  :yippee:
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 12, 2017, 02:52:21 PM
Oh, my.  Is artshopaholics really a thing? I ordered pencils from Amazon that delivered on Sunday, then  I was at the art shop today getting something to keep my pencils in.  I am doomed. Dun dun dun.  :2funny:

I hope that in seven years I can draw as well as you do.  Love your Morrisey drawing.
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 12, 2017, 05:38:19 PM
I finished the stroke exercises today.  I found the curves to be the most difficult, and also the most interesting. 

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Post by: Mysti Vale on June 12, 2017, 05:51:59 PM
I wanted to get these pencils organized, so I found these at the art shop.  I would love to hear how others keep their supplies organized.  For example, my x-acto craft knife came with two spare blades, but nothing safe to keep them in.  These are good for the pencils, but they hide the markings that show me what hardness/softness level they are.

Here is the case open with the pencils organized in three separate sections, plus room for the six pack of pencils stored in tin at the end. 

This is the closed case.
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: mea hamo pena on June 12, 2017, 06:40:02 PM
Very neat, Mysti.  So beautifully sharpened.

Here are a couple options:

1. Make a thin list of the pencil values in the order they are in the bag, then slip under the pencils as they lay there in the bag.

2. Turn the pencils the opposite way so that the numbers show.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: mea hamo pena on June 12, 2017, 06:40:49 PM
Good practice!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 13, 2017, 07:13:29 AM
Very nice arrangement Mysti. I have an old ice cream box which holds my graphite pencils, rubbers, small craft knife, charcoal pencils, small dividers, electric eraser, pencil finder, and a few other odds and ends. Not quite as neat as yours, but still fits in my art backpack nicely.

Very nice work on the stroke exercise.  O0 Doesn't matter much if they are straight or curved lines....after a while I have to break or they all look like me walking after a night at the pub!  :party:      :2funny:
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 13, 2017, 09:25:41 AM
Hi, Mea.  I like your idea of using a thin sheet of paper.  That could work.  I didn't want to turn them around due to the risk of breaking the ends as I take them in and out.

Val, I looked up old ice cream box pictures on google.  I have something similar from my mom that I think she kept sewing supplies in.  It is a cloth covered box with a zippered lid that is little bigger than your ice cream box.  It probably won't fit in your art backpack.

I am looking forward to my next lesson. :)
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 14, 2017, 06:48:26 PM
I got my new iPad Pro 10.5 with Apple Pencil yesterday.  I have been having fun setting up my shiny new toy.  Tonight I got back to work and did the stroke Exercises on it.  I was amazed at how similar it felt to drawing with a real pencil.

Here's my digital version of the stroke Exercises.
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: mea hamo pena on June 14, 2017, 10:42:40 PM
Mysti,

Your digital stroke exercises look good, but I haven't the slightest idea of how you are doing it.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 15, 2017, 02:20:32 AM
 :heeha: The curve exercises look much better! Is it due to the smoother surface plus the stylus do you think? Looks like you really bought a treat!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 16, 2017, 11:38:48 AM
Val, I think you are on to something.  The smoother surface is easier to work with, and at this point every little bit of help makes a difference.  I also used the undo function a few times when I had some very bad lines and curves done.  When I did the exercise on paper, I did not erase anything.

Mea,
I am using a digital pencil and drawing on an iPad, which is in effect drawing on glass.  Here's a picture of me with the finished assignment. 

I appreciate the encouragement from both of you.  :) 
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 16, 2017, 12:06:57 PM
That is so cool! I've never seen a pad like that.... but then we don't see much in that sort of thing. Have to go to the big cities for that.

I think you are going to have a great deal of fun with that.  :idea: You can do a manual version of your lessons, and a digital version! Doing two versions has got to a big accelerator to your artwork I would think. Twice the homework though!  ;)        ;D
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 16, 2017, 06:38:52 PM
Hi, Val.  Yes, it is very cool.  I don't mind double the homework.  This is one of those rare times when homework is fun!

I got the landscape done on paper tonight.  I have never worked with a soft pencil before.  I was surprised at how often I had to sharpen it. It really is quite different from using a #2 pencil with a pink eraser attached.


Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: mea hamo pena on June 16, 2017, 10:19:27 PM
Great job, Mysti. 

I love to call that the INSTANT ARTIST drawing.  It made me really feel like an artist when I did it.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: mea hamo pena on June 16, 2017, 10:24:32 PM
Interesting technology there.  I have trouble figuring out my IPhone, so I am not sure I could handle digital art.

I give you credit for trying.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 17, 2017, 05:03:55 AM
 :heeha: Top score on your eraser drawing! Well done you!!!  :yippee:      :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 17, 2017, 04:49:06 PM
Thank you for the encouragement!   :thankyou:  it means a lot.

I got a digital version done, then accidentally deleted it.   :uglystupid2:  <-- That emoji felt better than me.  I did it again, though.  This time I tried to add some dimension to the mountains and boat.  It was fun and I am glad I did it again. 

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 17, 2017, 06:45:14 PM
Very cool Mysti, great job.... I think i still like the graphite one best!  ;)    :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 18, 2017, 01:47:10 PM
Thanks, Val.  I agree.  I think my drawing is better on the digital one, but there is something about the paper one that looks a lot better.  Maybe the background is too stark white on the digital one.  It could be the size difference too.  I'll check into changing both of those. 
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 20, 2017, 05:46:42 PM
Tonal chart is done.  Now to get it laminated.  I can see where this will come in handy.  Or pencily. 😀

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 20, 2017, 06:24:09 PM
Tonal charts come in very handy no matter what medium you chose.  O0
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 20, 2017, 07:04:36 PM
I am going to make a digital version too.  Those little Digital pencil buggers seem a different tone than their physical counterparts.  Hopefully I can get them to tone it down a bit.  Muh ha ha. 
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 21, 2017, 02:54:13 AM
 :2funny:   Have fun!
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 21, 2017, 05:27:52 PM
I got it done, along with getting the paper version laminated.  Looks like I will be having a ball with the next lesson.

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: V on June 21, 2017, 06:46:53 PM
 :wave: Mysti,

Great start on course!
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 22, 2017, 05:48:43 PM
Thanks, V!   :wave:  I am working on the ball now.  It is really hard.  :heeha:  I have drawn several and am not happy with any of them.  I just took a look at yours and it is exceptional.   :twothumbs:  I got a few good ideas comparing yours to mine.  Hopefully I can execute what I see.  Time to get back on the ball. 
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Kathysutterlin on June 22, 2017, 05:58:00 PM
 :welcome: Mysti. I'm catching up on posts and started reading your thread. I am so excited to see what you do with this course. I started the "Let's Draw" course a year ago February. It is Wonderful! Have a blast and soak in everything Nolan and the group have to share.  ;)
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 22, 2017, 06:21:48 PM
Hi, Kathy!   :wave:  I am having a lot of fun with the course.  Just learning what the different pencils are called and how the hardness affects the drawing has been a real eye opener for me. 

I took a peek at your course drawings and your ball looks great too.  I am truly inspired by the phenomenal art I see here.

 :thankyou: for the welcome!

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 23, 2017, 06:43:40 PM
I am still working on shading.  I feel like this is a very important concept to get right, so I am spending extra time working it out.   :painting:

I thought it would be helpful to take a ball I have and light it up and observe how the shadow changes using a bright flashlight.  It was interesting seeing how the lights and shadows changed.  Then I had the idea that if I used a lamp as the light source, my hands would be free to take a picture.  I still seem to be having trouble.  For some strange reason part of the shadow has a non-ball-like shape.

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 23, 2017, 07:06:58 PM
 :2funny:   Seems you have a problem similar to one I used to have! Mine was called Sylais, affectionately known as "Artisticat"! They can/could be so very helpful!  :doh:    :2funny:


Sylais loved to paint!   :painting:
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Post by: V on June 24, 2017, 12:29:28 AM
Aww..so cute, really working for those treats  :smitten: .
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on June 24, 2017, 04:28:05 AM
 :smitten: Awe Mysti and Val, your fur kids are so precious. In fact, both of those photos would make great paintings.  :D
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 24, 2017, 06:35:21 PM
Sylais is beautiful.  Love the nickname Artisticat.   :painting:

I hope one day to be able to draw or paint my Ace a.k.a. The Destroyer.

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 24, 2017, 06:46:01 PM
Here's the digital version of the ball.  I am starting to understand the shadows and highlights and how they create shape.  The shadow and highlight on #5 are from a picture I got before Ace stole my ball.

First ball

Fifth ball
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Kathysutterlin on June 25, 2017, 04:43:29 AM
 :heeha: Wow Mysti, digital is a whole different medium, isn't it? I think your placement of the shadows and use of tones are well done. What the digital seems to lack is the ability to blend them for a gradual shading. I've not had the opportunity to try digital drawing so I'm not sure how it works. (I do hope to upgrade to iPad Pro this year)
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 25, 2017, 10:39:21 AM
Hi, Kathy.  Yes, it is very different.  It can blend, but I found I was over blending, so I just focused on the drawing.  I am still learning the tools. 

The iPad Pro with the Apple Pencil is amazing.  It is what inspired me to find and take the drawing course.  You will love it!   Since it is digital and portable, you can draw just about anywhere and not have to worry about having materials with you. 

Adobe sketchbook was 5 or 6 dollars to add the pro tools on the iPad, and that gave all the pencils as predefined brushes.
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on June 25, 2017, 10:46:28 AM
I finished my pencil drawings.  Mine are nowhere near where I see others are who took the course, but I am very happy with what I have learned.  These balls will certainly have trouble bouncing.  :2funny:

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Kathysutterlin on June 25, 2017, 11:53:10 AM
Hi, Kathy.  Yes, it is very different.  It can blend, but I found I was over blending, so I just focused on the drawing.  I am still learning the tools. 

The iPad Pro with the Apple Pencil is amazing.  It is what inspired me to find and take the drawing course.  You will love it!   Since it is digital and portable, you can draw just about anywhere and not have to worry about having materials with you. 

Adobe sketchbook was 5 or 6 dollars to add the pro tools on the iPad, and that gave all the pencils as predefined brushes.

Oh I'm so excited to give it a try.  My MacBook is getting tired. When it finally quits, I'm going to get the iPad Pro. Still trying to decide if I want the 10 or 12 inch. I will be sure to add the Adobe stetchbook 😃
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on June 25, 2017, 11:56:45 AM
 O0 You have the right idea here, Mysti. Keep playing and experimenting with your tonal graduations. You are off to a good start. I like to go back to the sphere every once in a while. It's good practice for all of us.  ;)
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Post by: Val on June 25, 2017, 02:45:20 PM
 O0 The sphere where I'm concerned, is the most important lesson to learn. It teaches tonal values, blending, well to put it simply.... it covers it all! The more you do, the better your skills will become no matter if it is sketching, drawing, or painting.
It's a great warm up for me.  O0

Just as an aside.... I still am not great at drawing a circle, but the inside of my tape roll makes a pretty good one!  ;)
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Post by: Mysti Vale on June 26, 2017, 02:46:19 PM
Kathy, Thank you.  I will keep working on the tones and gradations.  I learn something new every time.

On the iPad size, it really depends on how you will use it.  I considered the larger iPad and tried it out at the store.  I think it would be okay for use mostly at home on a desktop.  It seemed a little unwieldy to hold and draw on.  I carry my iPad with me everywhere, and the 10.5 size just works better for portability too.  It fits in the glove compartment of my car, and also fits fine on a table when I have to stop for food.  It also foots better in the RV.  The larger one sure looked nice though!

Val,
I saw you mention somewhere about using the sphere to warm up with. I can see why. There sure is a lot to making one.  I am going to focus more on blending and try and get the hang of it.  I may wind up using something to get perfect circles.  I remember in elementary school we'd use a string tied to the pencil to make one.  I had to laugh when Nolan said in one of his videos that only mad people can draw a perfect circle.   :D 

I spent the weekend camping at the beach and got lots of great pictures.  I hope one day I can draw some of them and do them justice.

Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Val on June 26, 2017, 07:09:10 PM
I had to laugh when Nolan said in one of his videos that only mad people can draw a perfect circle.   :D 

That's very true.... because by the time you practice enough to draw a perfect circle, you are stark raving mad!  :goofy: :2funny:


I spent the weekend camping at the beach and got lots of great pictures.  I hope one day I can draw some of them and do them justice.

You will Mysti, you will.   O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on June 27, 2017, 11:44:27 AM
I decided to give digital blending another go.  Instead of using it at default size, I decreased the size of it to 15mm, which is just a bit larger than the 10mm I have the pencils set to.  I still think it looks over blended like it's made of gluey mashed potatoes, but at least it is not one big smear. 

For the first time, I think my ball has a chance at bouncing.  ;D

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Post by: Val on June 27, 2017, 03:33:02 PM
 :heeha: Now this is getting good! Just a bit too much reflected light on the right hand lower section. Blending is looking very good. You're really getting the knack for digital.  O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 04, 2017, 06:51:59 PM
Thanks!  I am working on the berries now.  It is interesting to draw.  On the paper one, I have been using Nolan's trick of rolling paper into a cone and using it to blend.
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Kathysutterlin on July 05, 2017, 08:37:56 AM
The berries were fun. I look forward to seeing yours.  ;)
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Post by: nolan on July 06, 2017, 02:58:19 PM
You are doing a great job so far Mysti - on the pencil and digital side. Good on you for giving both a bash. That way you are not only killing two birds with one stone, but getting double practice in too.

When drawing digitally, don't be afraid to broaden your pencil when shading large areas. That is one of the things you can do which you can't in real life, so use that advantage when it will help you O0
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Post by: Happychappy on July 06, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
Mysti, I have just read through your whole site and found it so interesting seeing your hand drawn drawings first and then the digital ones. Your last digital sphere is so well done, it amazed me.  I know absolutely nothing about digital stuff, I don't even possess a modern iphone, that's how bad it is. Anyway, as I said, it all looks very interesting.


Patricia
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 11, 2017, 10:10:43 AM
Thank you so much for the comments and encouragement.  I am only getting a little bit of time each day to work on this, so I wanted to go ahead and upload the progress that I have made.  I will have some time to myself on Saturday morning and hope to get at least one version finished then.

Val,
I see I have too much reflected light in places again on the berries like I had on the ball.  I will work on toning those down from thousand suns to at least shooting stars before I call it final.  ^-^  I think it will help to have it all drawn out and see it as a whole to spot some of those details. 

Kathy,
I am having fun with these!  I even got to play with my knead-able eraser some to make shapes for spot erasing highlights.  Just learning how to use the tools to bring out your vision is such a neat process. 

Nolan,
I am enjoying the double practice.  It is interesting to do it both ways and see the differences.  I will experiment more with the different sizes and see how they work.  I have been reducing to get it to 0.3 mm to be like a technical pencil for the outlines, but haven't been going bigger.  I can't thank you enough for putting this course together.  :thankyou: I have learned so much in a short time.  I believe this will give me a good foundation to build on.

Patricia,
Thank you for the complement on the sphere.   :yippee:  I was just happy to have something that looked like it might bounce.  :)  Regarding digital stuff, I am the opposite.  Very much at home in the digital world, but lost using physical tools like pencil, paper, and eraser. 

Here is my berry progress so far.  I am finding it takes a lot more time to copy something than it did to draw from my head.
Paper

Digital

Paper next to original
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Kathysutterlin on July 11, 2017, 10:55:37 AM
 :clap: Oh these berries are looking great, Mysti. Isn't drawing so much fun?   Just continue  building your values gradually.
I'm going to be coming to you for digital advice. My iPad Pro will be here in a few days.  :yippee:
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on July 11, 2017, 11:13:35 AM
Thank you, Kathy!  Drawing really is a lot of fun.  :)

I will keep an eye out for your questions.  You are going to love the iPad pro!
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Post by: nolan on July 11, 2017, 02:41:22 PM
looking great so far O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 11, 2017, 03:06:18 PM
Thank you!
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Post by: Happychappy on July 11, 2017, 03:37:55 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Great job Mysti.    Patricia
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 11, 2017, 04:45:18 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: mea hamo pena on July 12, 2017, 11:09:03 AM
Mysti,

So good to see you succeeding with the Let's Draw course.

I like how you presented your work in stages., then comparing to the original.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on July 13, 2017, 01:39:23 AM
Thank you, Mea.  I plan on finishing at least one this Saturday.
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 16, 2017, 04:13:13 PM
My plan to finish one on saturday fell as short as Tyrion Lannister.  I promise I am not trying to make a career out of drawing berries!   :2funny:  I finally got both versions finished today. 

I re-watched the video and heard Nolan say the compressed time for him was 2 hours.  Oh, my!  How in the world does he draw that quickly?   :D

I did learn in this process that I was trying too hard to copy exactly what was there.  Once I quit trying to do that, I was able to take a step back just a bit and look at the drawing as a whole and see what was actually there.  I saw the shading in a different way, and was able to start making real progress.  It was such an epiphany!

I am really enjoying the course. Here are my two versions of the berries. 

Berries

Berries Digital Version
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: mea hamo pena on July 16, 2017, 11:00:20 PM
Beautiful berries, Mysti. 

aloha

mea
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Post by: TeresaM on July 17, 2017, 01:03:12 AM
Great work Mysti
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Post by: Win on July 17, 2017, 01:29:15 AM
  :clap: :clap:  interesting to see the 2 versions.
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Post by: Val on July 17, 2017, 03:17:03 AM
Epiphany indeed! You are making excellent progress. Well done  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 17, 2017, 03:47:55 AM
Thank you Mea, TheresaM, Win and Val!  I still see so many things I could do better, but I need to take what I have learned and move on to the next thing. 
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Post by: Val on July 17, 2017, 04:18:37 AM
That's the proper attitude!  O0   Most of us fall into the same pot, I know I am never 100% satisfied, but I am not as critical of myself as I once was..... truly.....  :whistle:
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on July 17, 2017, 06:29:10 AM
Mysti, I am so impressed with your progress. You are really learning fast.  :yippee:
Your berries looks great. Both the pencil and digital.  :clap:

I just got my iPad Pro and pencil. I feel like I'm starting all over again using the digital. There is so much to learn. The digital is much different from pencil. I need to find the various pencil grades as it only came with hb and 6b. 
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 17, 2017, 06:46:04 AM
Thanks, Val.  It is hard to tone down that perfectionist voice. 

Thank you, Kathy!  You need to pay the 5 or 6 dollars for the pro version.  It has a set of pencils that go from  4h to 9b, along with a ton of others.  Don't let the subscription thing throw you.  That is only for the desktop version.  I found that I needed to change the size of the pencils.  The standard ones Nolan taught us to use I have at 10mm.  The rest I set at 3mm and use as technical pencils.  Feel free to hit me up with technical questions.  I am glad to help.
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Kathysutterlin on July 17, 2017, 10:50:11 AM


Thank you, Kathy!  You need to pay the 5 or 6 dollars for the pro version.  It has a set of pencils that go from  4h to 9b, along with a ton of others.  Don't let the subscription thing throw you.  That is only for the desktop version.  I found that I needed to change the size of the pencils.  The standard ones Nolan taught us to use I have at 10mm.  The rest I set at 3mm and use as technical pencils.  Feel free to hit me up with technical questions.  I am glad to help.

Thanks Mysti  :1hug: I sure appreciate your help. You have learned a lot very quickly.  O0
I bought  Procreate  for $5. Is there another link to get the pro version? Is that Procreate or another program?
Title: Re: Let's Draw Mysti
Post by: Mysti Vale on July 17, 2017, 11:52:44 AM
It is a different program.  Adobe Sketchbook.  I have procreate too, and I will move to that one and/or art studio for color.  Sketchbook is the one I found with all the pencils.
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on July 17, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
It is a different program.  Adobe Sketchbook.  I have procreate too, and I will move to that one and/or art studio for color.  Sketchbook is the one I found with all the pencils.

Wonderful! I will download that tonight.  :thankyou: Mysti.  :flowers:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 17, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
You're welcome!
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Post by: nolan on July 24, 2017, 02:13:51 PM
your berry drawings are looking beautiful :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

You can still add more contrast to the berries themselves. The extra contrast will make them look even rounder.
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 27, 2017, 08:27:28 AM
Thank you!  I am not sure what adding more contrast is exactly.  Does that mean lighter lights and darker darks?
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Post by: Val on July 27, 2017, 08:38:52 AM
Correct!  O0     That will give your work more dimension and have it popping off the page.  :heeha:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 27, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
Thank you!  I will have some drawing time tomorrow and will work on it.  I am still amazed I was able to draw anything resembling the berries.
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 28, 2017, 06:32:11 PM
I added more contrast to the berries and I can see what you both meant by them being rounder and popping more.  I also did a little more work on a couple of the shadows and those two flat leaves.  Here is the new one with the old one for comparison.

 
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Post by: Val on July 29, 2017, 02:23:01 AM
Wow! Now that's definition.  O0   Great improvement, you just need to keep aware that the darks don't form strong bands of colour by softening and blending into the gradations. It can be a lot to take in but will become easier with practice. You are far and away now, can't wait to see your next lesson.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 29, 2017, 05:02:57 AM
Thank you, Val.  I really appreciate the feedback.  I could see that it wasn't as good a gradient, but I wasn't sure how to do the gradient with the higher contrast in such a small space as the berry.  Hopefully that is just something that practice will make better. 
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on July 29, 2017, 09:46:06 AM
 :clap: Beautiful work on the berries, Mysti. They pop right off the page.  :yippee:
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Post by: Val on July 29, 2017, 10:28:49 AM
One little trick you can add to your arsenal is to take one of your light pencils (2h, 4h) and with the lightest of touches run it over the darker edges. It helps, but here it comes again.....gets better with practice!  ;)    ;D
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Post by: Happychappy on July 29, 2017, 01:53:39 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Mysti your second set of berries is a great improvement. Take Val's advice for she is so wise. She put me on the right path as I also struggled with my drawings being too light when Val suggested what I should do and what a difference it has made to my drawings!!!


Patricia
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 30, 2017, 01:36:57 PM
 :thankyou: Thank you Kathy, Val, and Patricia.  I am starting over again on my rocks.  I was too focused on the minutia again and not seeing the overall image as I drew it.  I am using your advice, Val and hopefully I will be able to get better gradients this time.  Rocks are a favorite of mine, so I would like these to look good at the end.
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Post by: Val on July 30, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
 :gl2:        :cheering: :cheering: :cheering:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 30, 2017, 07:35:40 PM
Thank you! 
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Post by: nolan on July 31, 2017, 12:56:43 PM
fantastic, your berries really do pop now. You have learned a very valuable lesson with this drawing - don't be scared of contrast :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on July 31, 2017, 06:05:35 PM
Thank you, Nolan!  I will keep that in mind while drawing my rocky planes.
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Post by: Mez on August 05, 2017, 02:54:40 PM
Hi Mysti,

I'm just catching up on all your progress. You are doing some awesome drawings and I'm loving learning about the IPAD pro with the adobe sketch program. I hadn't heard of it and it sounds pretty cool. I might add that to my Christmas list... we'll see  ;)

Re your pencil organising, mine is quite similar and I'm loving it. I only have one blade so haven't encountered that particular storage issue.

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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 07, 2017, 10:46:39 AM
Oooh, Mez.  I love your organizer!  Thank you so much for posting the picture.   :thankyou:  You have a great space for your erasers too. 

I finally took mea's advice and turned my pencils around and found that the leads are protected just fine.  I was afraid they would break.  Now I can see my pencil sizes and it works well for portability.  I bring it to work with me and spend a few minutes every day drawing at the end of lunch.

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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 07, 2017, 06:59:42 PM
I love rocks, so I really enjoyed this lesson.  I have had more iPad time than time with my sketchbook and it shows.  I am not satisfied with either, but I am sure with practice it will get better.  Here are my rocks.  Now on to Nolan's next lesson!


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Post by: Mez on August 07, 2017, 08:22:32 PM
Great rocks! Your digital has certainly got the nice dark tones.
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Post by: mea hamo pena on August 07, 2017, 09:00:16 PM
Nice work, Mysti.

I assume the bottom ones are digital.. Oh, so smooth.


aloha

mea
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 08, 2017, 01:20:59 AM
  :thankyou: Thank youMez and Mea!  Yes, the bottom rocks are the digital ones.
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Post by: Val on August 08, 2017, 03:46:47 AM
Nicely done Mysti, you need more darks in your hand drawn version. Also, don't be afraid to change the angle of your strokes where you see a different angle in the stone face. It all helps to accentuate the planes.  O0

 :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 08, 2017, 04:41:52 AM
 :thankyou: Val!  I will do more darks on the sketchbook version.  It actually looks darker in person, but it could use a lot of fill in.  On the digital, some things I wasn't happy with got a lot better when I darkened it up.
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Post by: jsutterlin on August 08, 2017, 10:42:24 AM
Those rocks look great!  I need to get moving... you are getting way ahead of me!  :)
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Post by: nolan on August 08, 2017, 01:18:17 PM
great rocks. I can see you understand the concept of the planes perfectly. :clap: :clap: :clap:

You can however still add more contrast to the pencil drawing. The digital drawing is fine so use that as your comparison O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 08, 2017, 04:24:37 PM
 :thankyou: Jess!  I am loooking forward to seeing your next drawing!  No rush, though.  Just enjoy the process.  I find I am learning more every time I eat a chance to draw.

 :thankyou: Nolan!  I will do some more work on the sketch.   :painting: 
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 12, 2017, 02:56:47 AM
Updated sketch.  I added in the missing rock in the bottom left corner.  I also made up some of my own details and shapes, with lots of cracks added.


Old sketch for reference.


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Post by: mea hamo pena on August 12, 2017, 07:18:01 AM
Oh, yes, Mysti.  The values are much better now. 

Hey, the few new cracks add more character!

aloha

mea
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 12, 2017, 07:44:15 AM
 :thankyou: mea
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Post by: Happychappy on August 12, 2017, 10:06:58 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Mysti, a huge difference with more value. Excellent drawing.   Patricia
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Post by: BarryC on August 12, 2017, 06:45:23 PM
Love the depth and contrast Misti, nice job.
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Post by: Mez on August 12, 2017, 11:25:56 PM
That's awesome, much improved! Now you just need to remember to lean on the extra piece of folded paper when drawing  ;)  This I often forget and smudge all over!

Mez
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 13, 2017, 04:20:13 AM
 :thankyou: Thank you, Patricia.  I was surprised at just how much of a difference it made.  I guess stopping too soon is a rookie mistake.  I would not have done more without the encouragement and pushes to make it better that I got here. 

 :thankyou: Thank you, Barry.

 :thankyou: Mez.  That is the first time I forgot it and I kicked myself when I got done.  I have been using my laminated tonal value chart.  I just wipe it with a damp towel to keep it clean.
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Post by: nolan on August 13, 2017, 02:12:07 PM
much better now, well done :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 14, 2017, 02:25:37 PM
 :thankyou: Thank you, Nolan!
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 14, 2017, 02:34:08 PM

Digital version of a cross hatch tea cup.  I couldn't get good lighting from the sun in front of it, so it is instead using an overhead light.  That created a full single bright line down the length of the cup along with a very dark shadow with a strong line between the dark and mid-tone shadows.  I used the erasing trick from the first lesson to erase in the light.



P.S. I took one look at my tea cup and decided to go find a much simpler one.  This certainly is not what Nolan had in mind for cross hatching.


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Post by: mea hamo pena on August 14, 2017, 04:27:21 PM
Mysti,

Would love to sit and have a cup of tea with you.

Nice work on the cup.  Was it a clear glass cup?  I was wondering why the shadow would have the the light edge around it.

Wow, you were smart not to try and draw your cup.  It's so ornate.

aloha

mea
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 14, 2017, 04:58:58 PM
 :thankyou: mea.  A cup of tea would be nice! 

I see what you mean about the light ring.  It is an opaque white tea cup and that ring shouldn't be there. The light at the very bottom of the cup is due to the bright overhead light reflecting. I think the edge of the mid tone shadow is too stark too.  I will work on fixing those.
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on August 14, 2017, 05:16:49 PM
Mysti, I just love what you are doing digitally.  :smitten:
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Post by: TeresaM on August 15, 2017, 12:29:48 AM
Good job drawing the  cup.  :clap:
 Personally I think adding more tonal values as you did with the rocks would make it more realistic.
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 15, 2017, 04:57:27 PM
Mea, Kathy S. and Teresa, thank you.  I had stopped way too early again.  I like this version much better.

Kathy, How are you liking your iPad Pro?  I am starting to play a little bit with procreate.  It is nice, but I am finding my comfort zone in Sketchbook while I do this pencil drawing course.  I think I will use procreate more when I get to some color courses. 



Quote
Old version for reference
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on August 15, 2017, 05:23:22 PM
 :clap: Version 2 is incredible, Mysti. I am so impressed with what you are doing digitally.

I love my iPad Pro but I'm not crazy about digital drawing yet. I don't feel like I have much control over the way my lines hit the screen. My shapes look wobbly and childlike. I've been playing with the Pigment app a bit just to get the feel of laying down color but it's more like using a coloring book. I will venture into sketching eventually but I prefer to put my limited time into real pencils and paper.     ;)
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 15, 2017, 06:03:30 PM
 :thankyou: Kathy!  I have been playing with the Pigment app too.  Sometimes the dailies have things I enjoy coloring and shading.  I understand about using real pencil and paper.  It is more satisfying. 

One thing you might want to try is Apple's Notes app.  I think it is installed by default.  Start a note, then hit the squiggle line to go into drawing mode.  The pencil is nice and shades well when you tilt it.  You may be able to get a good feel for it there.
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Post by: nolan on August 16, 2017, 12:50:08 AM
fantastic hatching on the second version of the cup - so again you have learned not to stop too soon with the contrasts :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

PS - that cup is absolutely terrible for this exercise - as the teacher I am obliged to confiscate it so I can use it for myself >:D :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 16, 2017, 03:44:34 PM
 :thankyou:   Thank you, Nolan.  Perhaps the lesson will sink in this time.   :doh:   When I see how much better it looks after adding more contrast and tone, I cannot believe I thought the first version was done.


Hey, now!  Hands off my cup!  LOL! :2funny:
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Post by: TeresaM on August 16, 2017, 11:14:10 PM
Well done on the 2nd drawing  :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 17, 2017, 02:50:52 AM
 :thankyou:  thank you, Teresa!
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Post by: Mez on August 18, 2017, 09:15:45 AM
Mysti the cross hatched cup looks great! It amazes me how well you can do the digital. And yes, good plan on not going ahead with the tea cup you were drinking from  ;D
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Post by: Happychappy on August 18, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Fantastic cup Mysti.   Patricia
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 18, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
 :thankyou:  Mez and Patricia!  I am finding I have a lot more time to do the digital work than I do for paper and pencil.  I am still sketching the cup on paper, but am a good bit done with the teddy bear digital.
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Post by: Val on August 19, 2017, 02:17:08 AM
 :heeha: YAY Mysti!!!  :yippee:    There you go, such a difference in the rocks and your cup. Brilliant, keep on scribbling, you  really are progressing rapidly.  O0   Gotta love those darks!   :cheering: :cheering: :cheering:
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Post by: Kathysutterlin on August 19, 2017, 06:22:06 AM
:thankyou: Kathy!  I have been playing with the Pigment app too.  Sometimes the dailies have things I enjoy coloring and shading.  I understand about using real pencil and paper.  It is more satisfying. 

One thing you might want to try is Apple's Notes app.  I think it is installed by default.  Start a note, then hit the squiggle line to go into drawing mode.  The pencil is nice and shades well when you tilt it.  You may be able to get a good feel for it there.

Thanks Mysti, I'll give the Notes app a try.  ;)
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 19, 2017, 05:15:56 PM
 :thankyou:  Val!  I am having so much fun learning!
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 19, 2017, 05:24:40 PM
I think I could still go darker in some spots, but the instructions said use HB so that makes it a little lighter for all but the head.  I used 2B on the head before catching that HB instruction.  This is my first comepletely free hand drawing, so some things are not shaped right like the left side of his head is too big.  Nolan said to try seeing the planes before looking at his, and there are a lot of places I did them different.

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Post by: mea hamo pena on August 19, 2017, 05:36:59 PM
Mysti, I think he's kind of cute.  Maybe he has the mumps!

Even for first-time free hand, it's still really good.

aloha

mea
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 19, 2017, 06:03:01 PM
 :thankyou:  Mea!  Mumps.  Yeah, that's the ticket.   :2funny:
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Post by: nolan on August 20, 2017, 01:55:43 PM
your plane lines can different to mine and you can still get the same result O0

The use only HB instruction is to get you used to using different hatches instead of relying on the softness of the pencil. The reason for this is that it then opens the door for you to start with pen and ink drawing.

You can however use different pencil to get darker hatches if you feel you understand the concept of hatching closer and further apart to get different tonal values O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 20, 2017, 04:06:21 PM
Thank you, Nolan.  I got carried away with the hatching and lost the concept of different widths.  I will use the spacing better when I make the pencil and paper teddy.
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Post by: Mez on August 20, 2017, 09:22:39 PM
Hi Mysti, great work with the freehand and hatching!
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 21, 2017, 01:19:43 AM
 :thankyou:  Mez!
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 22, 2017, 02:47:23 PM
I am not happy with this one, but wanted to share my progress.  This is my 2nd attempt at drawing a cross hatch cup on paper. I am going to start over again.




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Post by: nolan on August 22, 2017, 02:49:14 PM
I can see you understand the hatching process - next round use a 6B and see how that works for you :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 22, 2017, 02:50:32 PM
Will do.  Thank you, Nolan!   :thankyou:
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Post by: mea hamo pena on August 22, 2017, 02:55:15 PM
Look at you, Mysti.  Already a show off with your dancing dolphins and tea tag.

Only joking.  Happy to see that you are venturing beyond what is required. 

You are fun to have around.

aloha

mea

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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 22, 2017, 03:05:41 PM
 :thankyou:  Mea!  Those were fun to try out.  Two of the dolphins turned out okay, but that back one is belly flopping a bit.  I think he had one too many. :beer:    :2funny:





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Post by: Val on August 26, 2017, 02:18:27 AM
 :cheering: He's not misshapen Mysti, that's just one well loved Teddy!  O0    :clap: :clap: :clap:

Your mug looks good, yep.... in every pod there's always one break-dancing dolphin! Woohoo!!!  :2funny:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on August 27, 2017, 06:48:36 PM
Thank you, Val!   :thankyou:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on September 06, 2017, 04:44:02 PM
I still need to update my pictures.  I hope to have time to do it this weekend - it really depends what happens with this storm as Irma should be going past in a few days.  I haven't had much time with pencil and paper, so I drew the dolphin mug again, but this time digitally.


This was drawn by hand using the digital 4B on it.  I am pretty sure I had already started it before Nolan mentioned using the 6B.  Either that, or I had CRS when drawing it.   :2funny:


I think the digital cup looked better, but it totally missed the concept of using line distance instead of shading to show shadows and highlights.  I hope this one demonstrates the concept better. 

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Post by: mea hamo pena on September 06, 2017, 10:15:11 PM
Pray you stay safe from Irma.

I admire your work with the digital program.  I haven't a clue how to do that.

aloha

mea
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Post by: Val on September 07, 2017, 03:39:36 AM
Nicely done, I think it could use a bit more hatching on the left side for just a bit more shadow to give it a bit more rounding. Not bad at all  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: nolan on September 12, 2017, 03:20:59 PM
looks great so far, just those few extra hatches as suggested by Val O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on September 15, 2017, 07:11:06 PM
Thank you, Nolan!  I still need to get it finished.  Now that the hurricane madness is done and things have settled a bit, I had some time to work on a paper drawing today.  I decided to work on the Teddy Bear with the 6B pencil.  I used a different set of pencils, but thought my strongest one was 6B.  When I put my pencil away, I noticed it was 8B.   :2funny:   Oh well.  The drawing is actually darker than it looks when photographed.  It was interesting doing the whole thing with only one pencil.  A nice challenge.   :) 


I used a new trick to get the outline done.  I found a light box app for the iPad.  I printed out a copy of teddy, then traced him using the iPad as a light source. 


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Post by: mea hamo pena on September 15, 2017, 11:03:00 PM
Great shape. Mysti.  Just need more darker values.  Check reference photo.
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Post by: Val on September 15, 2017, 11:37:43 PM
Mysti, you just need to darken the shadow side.... and don't forget his shadow!!!  O0   Nolan caught me for that one!  :knuppel2:    :2funny:
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Post by: Win on September 16, 2017, 02:09:46 AM
Just a bit more shading and you have a winner  :clap:
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Post by: nolan on September 21, 2017, 12:14:35 AM
the advice has been dispensed O0 Looking forward to seeing the updated version :gl:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on September 24, 2017, 03:13:08 PM
Thanks!  It is coming, hopefully this week.  I have not felt like I really understood what to do with the cross hatching, so have been doing some extra research.  I ran across your crosshatch fish video and some lightbulbs went off watching that one.  I am practicing on some small sketches right now, but nothing worthy of posting yet.
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Post by: Happychappy on September 27, 2017, 11:53:28 AM
Mysti you are doing well.   :clap: :clap: :clap:   Patricia
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Post by: Mysti Vale on September 27, 2017, 12:14:03 PM
 :thankyou:  Thank you Patricia!
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Post by: nolan on October 01, 2017, 01:20:02 PM
just don't get too worried about perfecting cross hatching. Cross hatching is just one technique of many. Rather continue with the course so you can try all the other techniques.

Then once you have completed the course you will know what you enjoy doing and can concentrate more on that while coming back to areas you were not so strong in to practice them every now and again.

That way you will stay motivated as you are drawing more successes than struggles O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on October 01, 2017, 02:09:35 PM
Thank you, Nolan.  I learned a lot watching your fish video.  I haven’t had time until today to take a few hours and draw.  You know, I really liked my first teddy bear, but he took over a week to draw being careful about each line.  The second one I was more copying your lines than making my own.  You made the point a couple of times in your fish video that crosshatch should be quick.  I drew the fish with you, then added a second one, in less than two hours.  I think I understand it now and will move on to the next, as you suggest.  Scribbles look like fun! 

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Post by: Happychappy on October 01, 2017, 03:38:06 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Great job on the fish Mysti.  I can see the progress you have made and it is very encouraging.  Carry on.   Patricia
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Post by: Mysti Vale on October 01, 2017, 04:03:45 PM
 :thankyou:  Thank you, Patricia!
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Post by: Val on October 02, 2017, 11:51:27 AM
 :heeha:   Great fish Mysti!  :clap: :clap: :clap:    You are doing so well and I wouldn't be too concerned over time spent to complete your works.... you've got a long way to go to catch my record!  :2funny:

As Dennis has told me, "slowly, slowly catchee monkey", quality now....speed later. In my case I feel my quality has improved....can't say much for my speed though!  :doh:    :run:      :2funny:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on October 02, 2017, 02:57:58 PM
Thank you, Val!  Is that a challenge to catch your record?   :2funny:   I have a better schedule with more time for drawing now, so hopefully I will not take so long for my scumbled goldfish. 


Nolan really did a great thing with creating this course.  It has opened up a whole new world for me.
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Post by: Mysti Vale on October 03, 2017, 05:19:32 PM
So, this morning I drew the outline of a pumpkin 🎃 on my iPad.  Then I decided to try out scumbling on it.  I found I couldn’t stop with it, so I kept going.  There are lots of things wrong with it.  For one thing, I did my lighting and shading on the pumpkin and then added a candle light source from a different direction.  It’s always something, eh? :2funny: I had fun doing it and learned a lot while working on it today.
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Post by: Val on October 04, 2017, 03:11:02 AM
That's pretty cool Mysti. You're getting quite good with the digital stuff.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on October 04, 2017, 04:59:30 PM
Thank you, Val! I get more digital time, so I get more practice on it. 



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Post by: nolan on October 08, 2017, 12:39:51 PM
looks like you had a lok of fun drawing it O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on October 08, 2017, 08:06:22 PM
Yes, it was a lot of fun!  I am traveling for the next couple of weeks.  I hope to get some drawing in while relaxing at the campgrounds.
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Post by: Gita on October 09, 2017, 12:24:23 AM
You’ve come very far with your drawing Mysti!   :clap: :clap: Your digital pumpkin will look great with some more darks to it. Which Programm are you using on your IPad?   :D
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Post by: Mysti Vale on October 19, 2017, 05:44:20 PM
Thanks, Gita!  I am using the pro version of sketchbook.  It has all the pencils in it.
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 01, 2017, 06:09:12 PM
I got some digital time in between trips and decided to do a better job of my dolphin Tea Cup.  Those poor dolphins couldn’t swim with their old fins.  :2funny:  This time I traced the cup to get the perspective done better.  The table is not real, just started as a generic crosshatch.  I redrew it a few times because the perspective was off a bit.

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Post by: mea hamo pena on November 01, 2017, 09:55:33 PM
Mysti,

I have no clue how you actually do the digital stuff, but I admire the results.  Keep 'em coming.

aloha

mea
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 02, 2017, 03:27:46 AM
Thank you , Mea.  With the iPad and Apple Pencil it is similar to drawing on pencil and paper.  There are some differences that are better and some that are worse,  aTo me, having more time with it is a big plus,
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Post by: Happychappy on November 02, 2017, 01:22:26 PM
Mysti, like Mea, I haven't a clue about the digital stuff but your cup with the dolphins are excellent.   Patricia
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 02, 2017, 04:32:39 PM
Thank you, Patricia!
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Post by: Val on November 03, 2017, 07:56:40 AM
 :heeha: Brilliant job on mug and dolphins Mysti. I did have a go at the digital..... went out and bought a new pencil sharpener!  :whistle:    :2funny:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 03, 2017, 04:10:24 PM
Thanks, Val!  I had a lot of fun drawing this one.
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 04, 2017, 10:35:44 AM
Another digital drawing.  Scumbling is fun! 

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Post by: Val on November 05, 2017, 03:10:57 AM
Excellent digital version Mysti.  O0   I really had fun doing that one. You are really improving in the digital world.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 05, 2017, 06:01:50 AM
 :thankyou:  Val!


Here is my pencil scumbling of the goldfish. The digital one was traced.  This one I drew freehand.


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Post by: mea hamo pena on November 05, 2017, 09:31:24 AM
Both versions look great, Mysti.  Scumbling is such fun.

aloha

mea
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 05, 2017, 10:12:36 AM
Thank you, Mea!  I had a lot of fun scumbling.
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Post by: nolan on November 05, 2017, 12:56:10 PM
Your cup came out fantastic. :heeha:

So did both fish :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

On the drawn version however the transition between dark and light in the top right area is too quick. Add a bit of  transition tonal value there O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 05, 2017, 02:18:44 PM
Thank you, Nolan.  I think I see where you mean, on the body.  I will fix it up and repost.
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Post by: Val on November 06, 2017, 02:53:28 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 13, 2017, 04:44:50 PM
My digital version of the barn.  All the different textures are interesting to draw.

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Post by: mea hamo pena on November 13, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
Really well done, Mysti.

aloha

mea
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 14, 2017, 05:35:03 AM
 :thankyou:   Thank you, mea! 
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Post by: nolan on November 14, 2017, 12:14:09 PM
looks great - I love the wonky roof
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 14, 2017, 02:32:07 PM

 :thankyou:  Thank you, Nolan!  I tried to make it look just a tad separated at the very back.
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Post by: Val on November 15, 2017, 03:55:07 AM
A favourite of mine, I learned so much from this one. Great job Mysti.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 15, 2017, 06:17:43 AM
 :thankyou:   Thank you, Val!  I really enjoyed this one too.  I know, I know, I always say I had fun with these, but it is the truth.  This is a fantastic course and I really have had fun with all of the drawings.  Sometimes it seems like magic by just going a little darker here and lighter there and then making things recognizable. Who knew drawing a rusty roof would be so interesting? 
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Post by: Val on November 15, 2017, 02:29:54 PM
 :2funny: Yes, Lloyd had many a late or more likely a missed dinner or three when I was doing the live classes. Even with the recorded classes I just get so engrossed the rest of the universe just ceases to exist!  :heeha:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 15, 2017, 02:46:50 PM
LOL! We have had a few late dinners too.  :2funny:   I was too late to be part of the live classes.  They must have been very interesting.



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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 15, 2017, 02:52:42 PM
Nolan, here is version 2 of the goldfish.  Is this better?  The first version is below for reference.

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Post by: TeresaM on November 15, 2017, 03:49:13 PM
Mysti your drawings are getting better each time as everyone here tells us practice practice
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Post by: mea hamo pena on November 15, 2017, 06:24:04 PM
Linley,

Definitely getting better.  One tip is to gradually fade out the value so that you do not have rigid black lines, like at the edge of the fins.

Otherwise, great job.

aloha

mea
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Post by: nolan on November 16, 2017, 02:08:15 PM
there you go, now the fish looks round :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on November 16, 2017, 03:50:41 PM
 :thankyou:   Thank you, Teresa!  I try to practice some every day.


 :thankyou:  Thank you, mea!  I was trying to do a small shadow to show separation of the fins and it looks like I wound up going too far with it. 


 :thankyou:   Thank you, Nolan!  It does look rounder.


I really appreciate the feedback from everyone.  I learn something new every time.   :smitten:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 02, 2017, 01:48:06 PM
I finished my barn drawing.  It is by hand instead of traced, so the perspective is off a bit.  I really enjoyed drawing all the shingles.

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Post by: Happychappy on December 02, 2017, 02:44:58 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Mysti apart from the perspective being a bit off, your shading is excellent and the fact that you drew it by hand instead of tracing, is really something.  Good job.


Patricia
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 02, 2017, 03:20:51 PM
Thank you! 
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Post by: mea hamo pena on December 02, 2017, 03:47:06 PM
Mysti,

Yes, the shingles really look good.  I like that added touch.

Hey, no worries about the slanting walls, I see many buildings like that here in the Oahu countryside.

aloha

mea
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 02, 2017, 04:42:12 PM
Thank you, mea! 
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Post by: Val on December 03, 2017, 05:56:21 AM
Great go for freehanding Mysti! I also tried freehanding this lesson. Good on you.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

If the verticals were straight you would have a much 'younger' barn...rather like people, which would be me  :whistle: . In younger years I was straight, slim, and quite well put together if I do say so myself  ;)    As I (as with your barn) age, the foundation tends to slip a bit, spread a little, our shape changes and we gain "character" !!!  Your barn and I have much in common...we both have great character!  O0    :2funny:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 03, 2017, 06:14:06 AM
Thank you, Val!  You certainly have great character.  <3
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Post by: nolan on December 04, 2017, 01:58:19 PM
great drawing with good textures :clap: :clap: :clap:

Just be careful when drawing verticals - despite perspective changing things, verticals always remain vertical regardless of where you view them from
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 04, 2017, 08:59:13 PM
Thank you, Nolan!  I see the front lines would be better if truly vertical.  The whole thing would look a lot better if those lines and the fence were in properly.  The textures on the barn were very interesting to draw, as was the shading on the fake side door and front window to show depth inside.  I also realized the lines on the top of the open door should be at a much sharper angle as the wood doesn’t look long enough to cover the hole.  Lots to nitpick on this one, but it was very enjoyable.
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Post by: nolan on December 06, 2017, 12:38:06 PM
sadly after every artwork we complete we will find things to nitpick about.

I always leave it a day for my head to clear, then decide if any of those are critical and fix them / remember them for next time. If they are not critical I don't worry about it O0
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 06, 2017, 04:24:17 PM
Thank you, Nolan! That is good advice.
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Post by: linley.plester on December 10, 2017, 11:30:53 PM
Yes, I agree with Mea. There are many wonky barns about. Actually, if no one had said anything I would have thought that the walls really were slanted in like that... which would be quite an engineering feat, but not an impossibility.
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 11, 2017, 09:56:05 AM
Thanks, Linley!  If anyone asks, I will tell them it was an engineering feat.  LOL.   :2funny:   


No matter how wonky, I really enjoyed drawing this one and learned a lot getting all the textures done.
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 13, 2017, 09:14:26 PM
I finally finished the digital version of the bowl, Koru, and candles.  I found the candles to be the most interesting.   I have been working on this course for five months and have finished two weeks worth, but  I am enjoying every minute I can spend on it. 

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Post by: mea hamo pena on December 13, 2017, 11:02:02 PM
Mysti,

Wow, those look great.  I don't understand the whole digital thing, but these sure do look good, especially the candles and candlesticks.

aloha

mea
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Post by: linley.plester on December 14, 2017, 02:35:08 AM
Mea, I don't think you are alone in not understanding digital art... include me in the cub. Mysti, I admire your enterprise, as well as your drawings. :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 14, 2017, 05:32:36 AM
Thank you mea and Linley.  I enjoy both digital and physical drawing.  One nice thing in digital is the ability to work in layers.  That way you can tweak and try something out on a different layer and if it turns out bad just remove the layer. 

I typically only use one or two layers, but in this one I used way more layers than in anything else.  I put the metal interior of the candlestick on one layer and the bent wood that goes over it on another layer on top of it.  The shaded wall is on its own layer and was drawn dark with three different directions for texture, then the opacity turned down to lighten it up so the shadows show up fine, but you get just a hint of texture.  The bowl and Koru and candles are on the layer with the bent wood on the candlesticks.  The dots to marble the Koru are on their own layer with the opacity turned down just a touch.
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Post by: mea hamo pena on December 14, 2017, 08:10:15 AM
Sounds daunting, Mysti.  But your layering seems to work as the total effect is quite stunning.

Keep at it.

aloha

mea
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 14, 2017, 08:57:52 AM
Thank you, mea!   :thankyou:
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Post by: Val on December 14, 2017, 12:23:14 PM
The end result is that I think it's brilliant!  O0   Personally.... I'm not good at all at the digital thing, but love to see what others can do.  :clap: :clap:
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Post by: Mysti Vale on December 14, 2017, 12:26:57 PM
Thank you, Val!   :thankyou:
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Post by: Happychappy on December 15, 2017, 06:06:13 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Wow, I too, thought that this was stunning Mysti.  However, I am another one who doesn't know a thing about digital drawing and as you were explaining how you went about it, you could have been speaking a foreign language to me as I understood nothing except the concept of layering. I am from the old school who left the work force when we only had typewriters!!! Anyway, it is lovely what you can do with drawings digitally although I have read that some places do not accept digital drawings. How can they tell whether it is digitally drawn or not by sending in a photograph because your rendition looks exactly like it has been hand drawn to me?  Would be interesting to know.


Patricia