Paint Basket Member Art Forum

Watercolour Painting => Watercolour General Chat => Topic started by: Maryna on December 11, 2011, 02:09:03 AM

Title: Materials needed
Post by: Maryna on December 11, 2011, 02:09:03 AM
Dennis, just wondering if a list would be made available before the class starts in January? Just to maybe ensure I got the basics to do the class. Thanks
Also I understand that I must not use the same brushes that I use for oils? What should I buy then? (looking at the SA market)
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on December 11, 2011, 11:31:10 AM
Marynamo, you will find the list HERE (http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/free-watercolour-course-equipment-list.pdf).

In it I will indicate the very basics needed in the beginning and all the others can be be collected/bought in stages as we progress. It will not be necessary to buy the expensive brushes.

Brushes for your watercolours should be kept separate from the ones you use for oil painting.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Val on December 11, 2011, 12:14:06 PM
 :clap: I hope to pick up anything I don't have in Martinique. Can't wait!!!!  :yippee:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Maryna on December 11, 2011, 08:40:40 PM
Thank you Dennis, looking forward to it.  :thankyou:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: claude on December 15, 2011, 12:16:39 PM
Dennis, you advertise the watercolor class sunday the 8th at 3 pm. Is that your upside down time or ......
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: nolan on December 15, 2011, 01:55:45 PM
I am about to upload the full description with times, etc. I will let you know when it's up O0
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Val on December 15, 2011, 11:11:19 PM
 :yippee: It's getting closer!!!
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on December 16, 2011, 12:38:52 AM
You will have to run very fast to catch the proper time, because when it is 8 Jan 2012 at 3pm on the down side up, it is already 9th Jan 2012 at 8am here upside down  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: claude on December 16, 2011, 06:17:45 AM
Friendly advice Dennis. STOP IT! Or you will be alone in class, everybody being too late or too early. (I gave myself another headache)
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: C.Bodine on December 16, 2011, 06:42:17 AM
 :2funny:  :2funny: I'll just sleep in front of my computer!
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: claude on December 18, 2011, 06:28:09 AM
Dennis, I just dwld the materials list for the wc class and checking with my favorite art shop I see there are different qualities in paint, student, fine, extra-fine etc. prices of course cheap, fair, take a mortgage etc. I am aiming for the "fine" cat. Is that ok or should I sell my truck and get the "Extra-Fine''
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: C.Bodine on December 18, 2011, 06:37:59 AM
Claude, Dennis talked about this under the thread "Free live watercolor painting". You may find what you need there. :)
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: claude on December 18, 2011, 07:44:43 AM
Merci madame. I found it. This place is getting huge, hard to follow all the posts, need a secretary, apply within.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Maryna on December 18, 2011, 08:19:42 AM
 :2funny:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: NHC50 on December 20, 2011, 10:21:26 AM
Well Dennis here I am again with another question. I went online to get my watercolor paper. You said get cold press 300gsm 140lb rough. Well all I can fined is cold press, hot press, and rough. It does not say cold press rough. I am looking at arches paper. Also does it make any difference in block or pad? Maybe I will get this right sometime. Thanks for your help.   ;D
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: valweb on December 20, 2011, 11:20:24 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis. 
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on December 21, 2011, 12:49:59 AM
Don't worry too much about the paper in the beginning. The main thing is to take what is available to you at the moment. As you progress then you will soon find out which paper suits your way of painting. It can be cold or hot pressed, smooth or rough. I put down what I will be using as that is what I have in stock at the moment. It can also be loose  sheets but a pad or block is much more convenient.

I know this is a bit confusing for the absolute beginner. The main thing is not to go too overboard with buying very expensive equipment. I personally just buy middle of the range brushes, etc. and get the same quality painting as if I had used very expensive ones.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Val on December 21, 2011, 01:34:01 AM
 O0
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: NHC50 on December 21, 2011, 06:56:44 AM
 :thankyou: Dennis
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: claude on December 29, 2011, 03:52:55 PM
I think I goofed. Went to the art shop today, bought all I needed for the watercolor class, brushes, color everything but.................... bought this paper,

http://www.dickblick.com/products/fabriano-pittura-acrylic-pads/#description (http://www.dickblick.com/products/fabriano-pittura-acrylic-pads/#description)

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg! Did I goof? It say Oil, Acrilic, Gouache but nowhere does it say Watercolor!!!!  :help:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on December 29, 2011, 04:31:19 PM
No. you did not really goof it. It's not the normal watercolor paper but it says the following
Quote
These acrylic pads are comprised of a high-quality, lignin-free, cold pressed cellulose paper that's acid-free and archival.

It is made out of paper - same stock as the watercolour paper but processed slightly differently. Acrylic and Gouache are waterbased paints. From what I see it will work for the classes. As they say in the classics - Time will tell!
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: sapphirelynn on December 29, 2011, 06:37:15 PM
looking forward to your class Dennis.  For some reason (probably Norton) I can not open the 'materials list'.  I have the paper but would someone please let me know what brushes I need.   :thankyou:  Linda
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Lillian on December 29, 2011, 06:52:27 PM
Claude,
I have a feeling you won't be happy with that paper.   :(  It has texture/ tooth that accepts thicker paint well.
I've seen it.  It's not very absorbent and watercolor will tend to float on it and move around.  It's ok if you like that effect.  It might give you a more abstract type of look.
I prefer 140lb Coldpress paper.  I like the watercolor pad as the paper doesn't buckle when it's wet.
...just my opinion Claude.
I've done a fair bit or watercolor painting and I'm anxiously await to see what Dennis has for us.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on December 29, 2011, 07:05:40 PM
Thanks Lillian for that explanation. Fabriano are the makers of watercolor paper and I have not heard of or seen this particular paper at all. I suppose it is in the sizing that is added to the surface that will make the difference.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on December 29, 2011, 07:24:26 PM
Linda, go to my first post (page 1) in this topic and you will find the list there. If it does not open I suspect that you do not have the free Adobe PDF Reader.

Get the PDF Reader here     http://get.adobe.com/reader/ (http://get.adobe.com/reader/)

Don't forget to remove the tick on the McAfee Virus download.
Let me know if you still are unable to open the list.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Lillian on December 29, 2011, 07:24:42 PM
 :urwelcome:  Dennis   :)
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: claude on December 30, 2011, 07:27:58 AM
So I walked in the art supply store and bought all I needed for the watercolor class and was rather proud to see it would cost under 50$ so I mosied along to the brushes because Dennis had mentionned a comb brush and since I don't have one of those and I can't live if I don't have one of those, I picked one up for 6$ and that's when it happened. Bang! Kaboom! Zchilitzx! As I was heading for the cash register there she was. The most beautiful studio easel in the whole wide world and........ gasp......... on special at 50% off. Now a little voice in the back of my head said: "Hey dum-dum! You already have four easels. You don't need a fifth one!". So, of course, being who I am, I slapped the back of my head and that really shut up that stupid little voice so I could concentrate on wiping off the drooling on my chin that this gorgeous easel had produced. So now, thanks to Dennis  :tickedoff: and that little 6$ comb brush I own 5 easels. My wife seeing me carry a 6 foot long box in my studio asked me somethig that started with "ANOTHER" but I shut the door and could not hear the rest.  :angel: I am still in my studio, door locked, trying to find an explanation for the use of 5 easels. This was yesterday. I'm hungry!
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Val on December 30, 2011, 07:47:57 AM
 :heeha:  Claude, its out of the closet now...you are a bonified  (sp) easel junkie!  :2funny: You might want to have a sympathetic soul slip you some nosh through the window for while. Wouldn't like to see your wife with the  :knuppel2: ! Duck and cover mate!  :whistle:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: C.Bodine on December 30, 2011, 08:10:54 AM
 :2funny:  :2funny: Claude you are a riot!  Can't seem to stay out of trouble, huh?  Your poor wife! ;)
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on December 30, 2011, 10:15:26 AM
I'm the eldest of 5 children (3 boys and 2 girls). And as a result I was the one that used to get all the hidings (Because I did not see to it that the others did not get up to mischief  :confused: even if I was not near)

Now because of that, I have developed a condition that is known as "Sloping Shoulders" :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Val on December 30, 2011, 11:03:49 AM
My sympathies Dennis, even though I am 3 of 4 I always seemed to cop it. Seems I had a tendency to wander....could be why I'm out here!  >:D
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: sapphirelynn on December 30, 2011, 12:57:48 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis, I have a new computer and did not have Adobe reader installed.  Thank you for the easy fix. Linda
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Leana on December 30, 2011, 01:29:56 PM
 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: Claude... you are soooo funny...  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: called my husband so I could read your post about the easle... sounds a bit like me too... always walk out of the artstore with more than I intended to purchase  :blush:

I had some watercolour goodies already...but popped into the shop today to get the missing bits and pieces... so... I am also all set for the course and truly looking forward to it.   :yippee:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: claude on January 02, 2012, 08:56:34 AM
Waiting for my turkey to heat up, I opened my brand new box of watercolor tubes and brushes. It was a beginner's set on special. Contains everything but talent. Looking at the brushes I came across one with a reservoir called an Aqua-Flo.  :confused: I filled it with beer, works great! Hiccup! I hope this W/C class if for dummies cause....... well........... you know......... :blush:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on January 02, 2012, 10:45:45 AM
Claude, I will be painting in such a way that even "dummies" will be able to paint reasonably good paintings for the first time -if they follow the "steps". I'll also be explaining the steps as we go along. Also I'll be slowing down my painting so that it will be easy to follow - so don't worry too much - it's going to be fun O0

Don't know why but I'm having a little bit of a battle with the autoresponder getting my reminder emails out.

So Folks - only a few days left till Monday the 9th January 2012 at 8am (New Zealand time)
You can check your time and date by going to:

 www.timeanddate.com (http://www.timeanddate.com)  in the center you'll see Time Zones and then click on the "Time Zone Converter"
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: eftpower1 on January 03, 2012, 05:55:02 PM
I 'm not able to get to the art store ( very short leash... Something about "I've heard it all before!!! I let you go to the art store for ONE thing and you...")  :angel: and because of that inability, I have a quick question: I don't have Cad Orange available,  Can I mix Cad Red and Cad Yellow to get the needed Cad Orange?  And do you have a simple recipe that will get me close to the proper color?

Thanks
Brian
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on January 03, 2012, 08:35:15 PM
Yes, to get Cad Orange you will have to mix roughly 50% Cad Red with 50% Cad Yellow. The exact colour even differs from manufacturer to manufacturer. From this mix you can adjust either way to get the colour you want.

There are a lot of ways to get different colours and during the course I will show some of them.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: hawde2u on January 07, 2012, 11:48:11 AM
Hello Dennis
I must be doing something wrong.  I can't get into the area "Materials needed", it tells me there is something wrong with the web page.  I would like to know the materials so I can paint with you.  Do you know what I can do to get the materials needed?  I'm very excited.
Thanks
Pam
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Val on January 08, 2012, 04:02:14 AM
Hi Pam  :bigwelcome:  to the site and forum  :clap:
Hope you get things sorted in time for the w/c class.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: C.Bodine on January 08, 2012, 05:37:27 AM
 :welcome: Pam! Perfect timing! Everyone is looking forward to the wc class!
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Lillian on January 19, 2012, 02:41:17 PM
Hi Pam,

I'm giving you a warm  :welcome: to Paintbasket.

I hope to see you in the next watercolor class.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Gloria on April 13, 2012, 06:51:04 AM
Hello Dennis, didn't know where to post this but I would like to know if you are going to send us the template for the next lesson. I would like to try painting along this time.
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: Maryna on April 13, 2012, 08:18:08 AM
Gloria, you can just add a new topic under mixed basket or so. Dennis normally sends a day or so before if there is any. :)
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: KPinAK on December 15, 2015, 03:25:17 PM
I'll be traveling over the next few weeks and won't have internet access.  I see the Poppies & the Sea Turtle classes (which I've bought) have full instructions in pdf (ie not just the intro material, photo & template, but abbreviated instructions for the whole painting).  I think the Cosmos Bouquet & Cape Cottage also had the type of written instructions I'm referring to.  What other watercolor classes have written instructions?  Those are SO handy!!
Thanks!
Karen
(if someone would pm me if they have an answer, that would be great.  I will get email messages easily but may not be able to check the forum for a couple weeks. THanks!!)
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on December 15, 2015, 05:58:11 PM
Karen, we are slowly adding the written lessons to the new site, but in a random order. A couple of hundred still to be done :help:
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: KPinAK on December 15, 2015, 06:54:09 PM
Oh good! They're very helpful!  Any chance you can tell me which watercolor classes DO already have written instructions?
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: dennis on December 15, 2015, 07:17:02 PM
Watercolour Lessons 9,11,37,38,39,60,62,84,87 to94
Title: Re: Materials needed
Post by: KPinAK on December 16, 2015, 11:07:28 AM
Thanks, Dennis,
That prompted me to buy a bunch more watercolor classes :-)

I found a more appropriate thread, copied your response there, and elaborated a bit on several additional classes I now see have instructions included in the pdf.  Hope this helps others, too, who have streaming video data limits :-)

http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=4138.msg173316#msg173316 (http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?topic=4138.msg173316#msg173316)